Maschine WorkFlow discussion

i was well aware of the question, and please don't patronise my comments either.

my answer is the same - and from past exchanges, i had a good idea of the kind of music you wish to make and that was confirmed by listening to your track on Soundcloud.

to clarify, for Maschine to do what you want it to do would take a major rewrite of concept and coding - probably starting from the ground up. for me what you want Maschine to do is more like a DAW, the devs have been clear that the concept behind Maschine is that it is not a DAW.

sowari

 

both ways would be nice.

sowari

 

Would you care to point out to me where I wanted Maschine to do anything? I simply asnwered the question about what one would want a DAW to do other than vocals. I did not mention Maschine.

 

well, seeing this is a Maschine Forum, i presumed you were talking about Maschine and that seemed to be what jpeg was talking about.

but yes, if i misread your point, then that was my mistake.

sowari

 

The way that I read it was that jpeg couldn't see any use for a DAW other than for recording vocals. Still, no problem

 

yes that does make sense.

sowari

 

Can Maschine reWire into other apps?

Would that "solve" the issues you guys currently have?

 

+1

I'd say more, but I think you got this.
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+100

I would be happy if it was just more intuitive on how it reacts with the Major DAWs.

 

how Maschine interacts with other DAWs has just as much to do with Maschine as it does with the DAWs

in terms of a quick workflow, i find i am using Ableton Live with Maschine much more than Logic these days.

sowari

 

it would be great )
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I was just talking about it
and just the best thing is to get full benefits of that interaction - with Reaper, thanks to its actions functional

 

I use Maschine in Cubase and I can control any VST sounds with the Maschine Pads in software mode(not MIDI mode). What I do is route the output of Maschine VSTI into the input of whatever VSTI I am using (including the same instance of Maschine) and I can hit pads and use note repeat no problems. I love doing this with Arturia Spark, since it has only 8 pads I use the Maschine to trigger the sounds while tweaking the sounds themselves with the Spark controller. It is also a great MIDI controller, I am currently mapping out Reason 7 templates to use rewired into Cubase with Maschine. Tedious but awesome nonetheless.

 

I will admit when I'm wrong. I've already heard that Reaper, Cubase & Live interact with Maschine better. Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree or I need to change DAWs? It's worth it, that much to me to change anyways. I just bought PT10/11 has anyone had any experience with it? I haven't get the transport to work in native mode yet. Maybe I should start another thread on "Maschine friendly" DAWs? I really wanna know!

 

i don't use Pro Tools anymore, as it is more of a pain than Logic is. unless you are really into Audio editing and recording 'real musicians', i see no point in Pro Tools.

Ableton Live is my favourite DAW.

sowari

 

I was looking at Live the other day, online. I believe what kept me from using it in the past was because I couldn't get my head wrapped around it's enhanced workflow. I don't know why, I just couldn't figure things out. Maybe the Tutorial Videos have gotten better? How does Live mesh with Maschine to make it a better workflow and production experience than Logic and PT 10/11? My main concerns are:

1. Transport use (we discussed this and thanks for that help on logic)
2. Live Scenes vs Maschine Scenes (how to you decide which ones to use)
3. Routing maschine in Live and then adding tracks in live?

I'm gonna check out some videos on it now.

 

1) Transport from Maschine in controller mode works just fine
2) I use both, I have templates with MIDI clips that trigger Maschine scenes in it, so I trigger Maschine scenes along with Ableton scenes (I generally use Ableton for elastic audio stuff), then when I go to arrangement view, I drag the Maschine scene triggers across and arrange them into the timeline along with clips from Ableton. It's at this stage that I'd add any long recorded audio tracks to Ableton
3) You can route Maschine as normal to one of 16 channels. The annoyance that routings reset when browsing and loading stuff is still there of course

 

How about instead of looking at it like NI is releasing yet another DAW, they just keep adding features until the difference is negligible.

That way, as long as they never officially call it a DAW, we can continue to say "Maschine is not a DAW, you need a DAW" when people find lacking features to complain about that NI has yet to add.

Everyone wins.

 

I like the way you think Kralnor it's very positive, that sounds like a good idea and they should start by not calling it a production studio anymore cause right about now that's confusing a whole slew of people

"Make MASCHINE the centerpiece of your studio set-up. With direct access to all software functions via the intuitive hardware, you can easily browse, load, tweak, play, arrange, and automate all sampler, plug-in and effect parameters with full hands-on control.

With MASCHINE you can also control and sequence all of your external hardware instruments, or switch to MIDI mode to control other software. Once your track is ready, drag and drop your patterns as MIDI or audio files directly into your DAW to finalize and mix your production. You’ll soon realize MASCHINE is a powerhouse capable of revolutionizing the way you make music."

 

I have come to love Maschine as a controller for Ableton as well as a great sampler/drum machine that i use in Live. I don't like sampling in Live really and drum racks aren't my cup of tea either. Maschine makes a lot of things easier for me in that respect plus since Live supports rewire and is one of the best rewire hosts around it makes a lot of sense for me to work that way.

 

Right now using maschine augmented with a daw makes the best sense for all of us

 

Couldn't agree more KevWest. I've had Live for about 4 years and the processes of using sampler, drum machines, or chopping up wavs in Live are SOO much easier in Maschine to get the same results that it's almost revolutionary to me. Plus, the drum hits in Maschine are already "beefy" sounding (for lack of a better word), whereas you have to run drum sounds in drum racks through effects chains to get similar, full sounding hits that are already available in Maschine.