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Maschines new best friend

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by enot, Feb 11, 2011.

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  1. enot

    enot NI Product Owner

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    finding samples with basehead is faster
     
  2. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    You're still giving minimal info...

    What's faster about it? What makes it better? And, more specifically, what makes it better/faster than the Maschine system?
     
  3. spacef2011

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    I guess I don't get how you search on Basehead, as I am not on mac , i can't try it.

    but here, like on the picture, it is about a few clicks to find samples the way I want them classified (as you can make your own tags and create cross references, ie stuff that will appear under several different tags). If you do it when you buy and install a new sample bank, it is matter of a few minutes or less. I personnally find it easier to classify by bank name, but one could create another system that suits him better. That's what I like in maschine tagging system , it is customizable by each user....

    Yes, it is a bit of work, and I still have a few libraries to import , but for the ones I've done already, it is really almost a pleasure now to find the right sample (almost because to find the right one, you still have to try them manually.... i don't expect any program to do that for me, not before a few years or decades at least :) .
     

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  4. theinvis

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    not really getting what is the goods on this one, you still have to create a logical database of sounds for it to search right, and you still have to point it to your sounds right?....so how is this different /better from maschine?
     
  5. spacef2011

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    I went to look more into BAsehead's specifications, and I don't have the impression it is "that" more powerful than mashine's own browsing / tagging system... looks like it is more or less the same no?

    ps: and on pc, I have programmed a special key macro that makes the "arrow down + enter" (or arrow up) which is valid on many NI preset browsers and a couple of other synths i have.

    I guess I could program another macro that plays a certain number of samples in a row with a predetrmined delay in between each of them (it is programmable too, at least on the gamers' equipment that i use for my macros/shortcuts etc....).

    Anyway, thinking out loud :)
     
  6. enot

    enot NI Product Owner

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    maybe i might not have said it but there are videos on the site where you can see it work. to give you a simple example of how fast your samples come up and able to sift threw them, its just as fast as searching spotlight on a mac but with the ability to audition the samples and quickly edit them if you want to, but i only use it for searching and dropping the samples into maschine nothing more. there is not a lot of information to give its a searching engine for samples with editing capabilities nothing more nothing less. searching inside of maschine is slow or maybe its my maschine i dont know but basehead with maschine is much faster to me.
     
  7. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Fair enough that it's better for you.

    But, in my opinion and experience, Maschine's system is not inferior to this.
     
  8. QueMusiQ

    QueMusiQ NI Product Owner

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    Idunno about you, but I have more drums than just what came from maschine. If a homie drops a few gigs of drums on me, I don't want to have to go through and tag each and every one of them one by one. So then, I'm stuck with a ton of one shots that just has a name and no tags in the maschine browser.

    But this lets me search all of those by name, despite not being tagged, so you don't HAVE to tag them. At least, that's how it appears to be useful to ME. Instead of having to spend hours if not days tagging things so that it WOULD be effective via Maschines' proprietary browser, this kind of automates it for you if the files are aptly named.
     
  9. Mr36

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    Right... Something a little more useful. Does it work from the actual names of the samples then? And so the "tagging" is essentially done by naming the sample files and the search is just a file search?
     
  10. spacef2011

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    you generally import a folder and tag from there (and you can do multiple tags on 1 import, so you generally don't have to tag each sample one by one). IS there anything that tags samples by itself ? :-o

    for ex, i import the snare folder of a libary, that's 2 tag (bank name, snare... for example).
    If the bank is not organized by type, but has it all by kits, then it can be good to import it as it is (tag= libary and kit name, and then by type if you want) (samples with same name is apparently common with some manufacturers...which is not easy on any search engine).

    I don' t know why some people's system is slow, here it is just as fast as windows own search engine. Just the building of database is slow.
     
  11. Mr36

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    Hang on, hang on... Are you talking about the Maschine system? Or this Basehead thing?

    And I know there doesn't exist something that can tag stuff for you. But if the database works on the actual filenames themselves, it could work like that. That would obviously require all of your samples to be named appropriately for a search engine though. Essentially being tagged anyway.

    I have no problem with the Maschine system and am not looking for an alternative, just curious as to what is so good about this Basehead thing.
     
  12. spacef2011

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    I have the impression that everybody's problems would be solved with a search module displayed inside maschine's own disk browser ? right ?


    (NB: @ Mr36 - I am talking about maschine only.... I can't try Basehead).
    The advantage of basehead would be that it can be common to several software from various manufacturers. For the rest, I am not sure it is better or worse than mashcine's own system, the features are pretty similar with some exception in favor of both systems, in my opinion..
     
  13. Mr36

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    That's pretty much how I see it too. Just with the sensationalism of the thread title, I expected some revelation.
     
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