Massive 2

about time dont ya think? what would you like to see massively upgraded?

 

I don't think Massive is stale in it's current state. Not itching for an upgrade.

 

Yeah I agree, I think Massive is pretty much finished. I'd rather see some new synths.

 

Agreed. Massive is a beast and really needs nothing else. To do so would most likely jeopardize CPU IMO. The only thing I would want is to have the mod wheel automatically assigned to something within each preset rather than having to do it manually...but that's not even close to a deal breaker.

 

I dont agree, Massive need some better FL and FX.

Some more advanced routing ( im not totally happy with current one - sometimes i miss some non-existing features )

 

Yeah, Massive is pretty decent as is, but there's still things that could be improved - as shown by the various feature request threads. But would rather a 1.4 or 1.5 release than a complete overhaul. I'd much rather have FM9 tbh! I think FM8 seems to be rising in popularity at the moment, maybe partially because Skrillex said he uses it. But it's definitely lagging behind in terms of performance and synth modulation - macros, LFOs and envelopes, assignable to operator pitch and effect parameters are all much needed features.

But yeah, sorry to digress... this is a Massive thread, just saying what I'd prefer first

 

Interesting thread, I'd like to see what they would want to add to it, it's already a beast.

 

The only thing massive needs, is a dedicated controller hardware !

 

That would be awesome!

 

I think an update would be nice, there is definatly some things that can be updated. some new filters for example, or the ability to route external audio through massives filters and fx like you can in absynth.

 

external audio ? for what ? for FM filter or LP Filter or poor on-borad Reverb - i dont think its necessary. You have all these FX in your DAW, so - programers can use their time doing something more useful for Future massive improvements.


Absynth 5 is a different story, because of fexible modular structure of Mod and FX's and unique finnal FX types, that dont appear in other synths.

 

I was more thinking of the filters (I don't have either a scream filter or a daft filter in my daw's which are pro tools and reaper). What you don't find necessary others might find quite usefull. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, just giving my opinion. Also, for the FX section, the dimension xpander gives nice stereo results, and i also like the tube distortions. Another thing that could be added to massive is loading your own samples in the osc's! And a built in ARP like in FM8. There are lot's of room for improvements and new possibilities!

 

Well, in todays politically correct world ( not mine really ) even a small disagreement and question is perceived as a insult of fight seeking.


One time i got banned from some forum, because i've said to the guy that i dont like his song and why i do so ( to make him improve his skills ect - in one word - to threat him seriously like Human insted of " great song - keep it up " )

As for this forum - i did not register here to avoid any disputes and i dont take any disagreements as an act of hostility towards my person.

So - no i dont seek fight here as well and i dont think that undermining any personal opinions should be abolished in the name new savoir vivre rules.


And as for the Filter - i would like to see some Native Instruments FX and FL Tool that use Massive Macros and drag nad drop Automation solution as a separate VST plugin.

 

good to hear that Eclipse.Sound. I picked a little on your words and was just afraid you would take it the wrong way. I'm glad you didn't Sad to hear you got banned for such a thing, contructive critisism is rare and are worth more than gold

 

I can think of quite a few things that I'd love to see implemented into a new version of Massive.

1) Updated Wavetables. Play any dubstep or electro track and you are bound to hear the same old tired wavetables. While the ones that is currently has are great, if a new version gets released, I'd like to see at least a few additions.

2) Dedicated Modulation Wheel Handle AND Pitch Wheel Handle. I seriously cannot believe that this has not been implemented yet. Especially the Mod wheel, but the pitch wheel can be assigned and used so creatively in so many ways when you give the user the ability to use it both unipolar and bipolar.

3) MIDI OUTPUT. For me, this seems like a no brainer. With all the complex modulation available in Massive, it just seems so obvious to be able to use one of the morphed LFOs to control an external third party parameter.

4) Additive Waveform Generator / Wavetable Creator. Possibly as a secondary offline application, but a way to create custom wavetables using a combination of additive synthesis and wavecycles within samples to assign to each part of the wavetable. Then have this be able to be loaded as an Oscillator's wavetable within Massive.

4a) Visual feedback of the current waveform within Massive. Even if it's just a small one. This one is more cosmetic than anything.

5) More Oscillator Modes. The Bend +/- and Formants are great, but that's just the tip of the iceburg. Take a look at what RGCAudio/Cakewalk do with Z3Ta+'s waveforms. Maybe just having a second knob added on to allow another type of modulation to be done to the waveform. There could be a sine mode that morphs the wavetable from 0 as the regular wavetable to 127 which would be a pure sine wave. Same thing with other wave forms. Then another possibility is the option to do vertically with the waveform what the Bend +/- does horizontally. Compressing and expanding the waveforms' amplitude, either compressing and peaking it at a smaller level, or moving everything up and peaking it at the top/bottom. Then there's the flip mode which inverts the waveform starting with the outsides of the waveform and moving toward the center. A scramble mode that acts as if a granular processor, moving parts of the waveform around to other parts and scrambling it. Etc. Etc. There are so many possibilities that could exponentially increase the number of sounds possible. And all of this with just one knob per Oscillator.

6) FM8's X/Y morph pad. Do I really need to explain it? Throw in a couple of slot for modulation handles on both X and Y, and you've got pure awesome sauce.

7) Making use of dead knobs. Especially on the filters. Why do the standard LP and HP filters not make use of that extra knob by offering an additional drive stage or SOMETHING? To me, it seems to obvious to make use of them!

8) A Third Master FX module, and a parallel vs serial routing scheme for them. This sets up the option for multi-band distortion within massive by including LP/HP on the Tube Distortions (which have extra knobs for them, by the way). If you run the first two units parallel and then both of them serial into the third, you can add a dimension expander to the multi-band dist...

9) Revamp the Mod Osc. Even if it's just allowing simple analog style waveforms, it would be nice to be able to select more than just a sine wave. And equally important: multiple destinations. Why should phase modulation only be allowed to be routed to a single oscillator. Why only FM on one filter?

A majority of these are small tweaks that just make use of what is already there and not being used. Granted, the wavetable editor and the Midi modulation output would take some significant work, but it would warrant the upgrade cost and give people a serious incentive to do so; and they greatly expand what Massive is able to do and would set the pace for soft synths for the next half decade, and very likely give dubstep/electro (and even American Pop music now) a much needed sonic makeover.

 

Live modulation display, ala Kontakt. (A dot that animates around the ring of the parameter to show the instantaneous value.)

Ditto for envelopes, ala Absynth.

More filter models.

More analog-sounding wavetables (imperfect saws/squares)

A gate trigger from the steppers/performers.

 

New presetsystem.
Nowadays you see a more splitted system.
I would like to combine the sound of one preset with the modulation of another.
The preset should be splitted in an osc section, routing section, blue mod section, green mod section etc. Or at least 3 sections.
Anything else will blow my computer I guess

 

Analog Button / Slop

I would like to see an easier way to create slop / analog than using LFOs and stuff. Maybe a dedicated analog drop down that just does some slop and stuff for you.

 

i mainly want a more intuitive interface

 

Just got a teaser email of a new synth from NI, I wonder