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Massive 2

Discussion in 'MASSIVE + MASSIVE X' started by atrafcomrades, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    It's not Massive 2 I'd say, more likely it's a new synth for Reaktor. :D
     
  2. Kickflip

    Kickflip NI Product Owner

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    Some sneaky indicators point to that new one being called Monark, and I'm suspecting it's a virtual analogue with switchable oscillators/filters/etc, a bit like Diva. Would make sense, especially as NI are lacking a virtual analogue since they axed Pro53.

    I'm thinking Massive 2 will happen soon though. They're giving away Massive 1, and Komplete 8 has just had a big sale with a "while stocks last" disclaimer. Gotta be around the corner... I'm mainly hoping for FM9 though!
     
  3. cnoise

    cnoise New Member

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    They also need to implement a matrix for modulation routings like z3ta. You are so limited when you can assign only 3env/lfo per knob, its really annoying... And yeah maybe revisit entirely the mod osc: multiple waveforms? PM? retrigger? All usefull things, just saying
     
  4. SirMcp

    SirMcp New Member

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    Robbader

    4) Additive Waveform Generator / Wavetable Creator. Possibly as a secondary offline application, but a way to create custom wavetables using a combination of additive synthesis and wavecycles within samples to assign to each part of the wavetable. Then have this be able to be loaded as an Oscillator's wavetable within Massive.

    That is a great idea and I thought that Propellerhead's Malstrom needed the same feature because a finite amount of waveforms gets old.

    5) More Oscillator Modes. The Bend +/- and Formants are great, but that's just the tip of the iceburg. Take a look at what RGCAudio/Cakewalk do with Z3Ta+'s waveforms. Maybe just having a second knob added on to allow another type of modulation to be done to the waveform. There could be a sine mode that morphs the wavetable from 0 as the regular wavetable to 127 which would be a pure sine wave. Same thing with other wave forms. Then another possibility is the option to do vertically with the waveform what the Bend +/- does horizontally. Compressing and expanding the waveforms' amplitude, either compressing and peaking it at a smaller level, or moving everything up and peaking it at the top/bottom. Then there's the flip mode which inverts the waveform starting with the outsides of the waveform and moving toward the center. A scramble mode that acts as if a granular processor, moving parts of the waveform around to other parts and scrambling it. Etc. Etc. There are so many possibilities that could exponentially increase the number of sounds possible. And all of this with just one knob per Oscillator

    INDEED.

    6) FM8's X/Y morph pad. Do I really need to explain it? Throw in a couple of slot for modulation handles on both X and Y, and you've got pure awesome sauce.

    I'm surprised NI hasn't put an xy controller into Massice already.

    good ideas dood.
     
  5. sijarvis

    sijarvis NI Product Owner

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    Definitely about time. I don't think it's old or jaded, just that there have been a lot of ideas suggested and it would be great to have them to play with.

    I've previously said that massive should be renamed "only so big", either that or they expand it to gigantic proportions.
     
  6. king of kings

    king of kings New Member

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    when? where? how much? :lol:
     
  7. xcelencia

    xcelencia NI Product Owner

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    How about a basic mobile version so I can design on the go =p
     
  8. EchoSoundWorks

    EchoSoundWorks Forum Member

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    Ideas

    From a sound design stand point it would be great to allow for custom waves/wavetables to be used. I would also like to have one more oscillator and a unison/width knob that effects each individual oscillator. There could also be some more filter types. A vowel filter comes to mind.
     
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  9. Peter Bower

    Peter Bower New Member

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    Hey all, resurrecting this old thread. Would love to see massive updated, and the massive wave tables are being milked to hell in electro/dubstep etc. such that the sounds are dating very quickly.
    Would love to see:
    * a 4th oscillator - often want this.
    * new wave tables - and the ability to import short samples
    * the fx - the reverb badly needs a high pass filter - should be included for all the delays etc. too
    * drive controls on all filters (I know they are level dependant already, but this would help)
    * more slots for modulation - 2 is often not enough - for example only 2 for pitch modulation. As an example I will often use the random generator for a few cents to make it more analogue, but then you are limited.

    They are just a few examples. NI please do this ASAP before I hear another dubstep or shitty electro record and want to shoot myself in the face
     
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  10. Igro

    Igro New Member

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    I really hope NI is already in the process of making Massive 2. Too many competitors have already appeared: Serum, Nave (new Waldorf Wavetable synth), Codex, WaveMapper (Wolfgang Palm).

    I would like to see new wavetables (softer ones) or at least a new ways for softening the edges of the current wavetables. New filter types.

    Thank you!
     
  11. Summa

    Summa Sounddesigner

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    Hmmm... I think this is a problem that can be solved since their already ways to soften the waveforms, wavetable and filter wise. What type of sounds are you after?
     
  12. Igro

    Igro New Member

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    Filtering...it is a bit different. There is also a modifier in the oscillator section, but it's just same as filtering.
    Imagine a square shape, and the ability to soften it's sharp edges? Melda PowerSynth does this, Z3ta, Serum.
    I'm after organ, bell sounds.
     

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  13. Summa

    Summa Sounddesigner

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    Hmmm try the Sin-Square or Smooth-Square table. In case you want to smoothen a Saw-waveform instead set the oscillator mode from Spectrum to formant and intensity to 0. Its a bit smoother than using spectrum mode since its not just cutting the higher harmonics.
     
  14. wetfrog

    wetfrog New Member

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    Would rather an fm8 update. Although if massive had the envelope control of absynth, that would be pretty dope. The performer modulator is a bit annoying
     
  15. wetfrog

    wetfrog New Member

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    I still find there's loads more juice in massive and I use it a lot. Most of my sound design starts off in massive, as I find it incredibly flexible
     
  16. Seoman303

    Seoman303 NI Product Owner

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    I would like a real synq-option. The synq-waveforms (VA/HardSynq) are not bad but imagine the various wavetables get sync'ed and at the same time the wavetable-position is modulated.

    Another point is the ring-modulation. It is not sufficient for me as the modulation-OSC is just a simple sine. Better would be to route two of the three OSCs into a ring-mod-section and to mix the output into the OSC-.signal-path.