Massive as a Reason Rack Extension

This is what I want.

 

Reason's sequencer is the weakest part of the whole package. It's OK for very basic stuff but, it one wants to be a little more 'surgical' then a grown-up sequencer is needed.

 

Why you guys dont asking Prppellerheads about implementing a plugin wrapper for standard formats like vst and au? This would be the more realistic solution! I dont like the rack extension concept, this is just a marketing thing to me.

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We did for 13 years. This is what we got. Though to be honest Rack Extensions do make a ton of sense for Reason. Rather than the floating windows for each vst its a rack like every other rack in Reason.

 

Yup. The Rack Extension is much more than you might think; it wraps all controls for the Reason rack as Kev says, it adds standard automation and routing, and it sandboxes stuff so that it can't possibly crash the host. They are actually much better than VSTs in lots of respects, we just need a greater range. And Massive would be a pretty big step =)

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying its better than vst but it makes a lot more sense for Reason users than vst does. To non Reason users though it seems kind of stupid. Hell at first it seemed really stupid to me but I have used a ton of them it makes a lot of sense if you only use Reason to use Rack Extensions. Me personally I use Reason as a rewire synth so Rack Extensions are great for me for the most part. Just load it up inside of Ableton and I use Komplete, Maschine, and my various plug ins along with Reason all in the Ableton environment and it works really well.

 

+1 A message to NI - I use reason and like a lot of reason users don't use anything else. So if you don't make a RE you be getting my money. The reason community are gagging for something that sounds different. Even if you make a cut down version to test the water it would fly off the shelves. Go on you know it makes sense

 

That was supposed to be won't be getting my money. Should proof read before I post.

 

You can edit your posts.


And I don't think NI is concerned about getting your money or not: VST/AU userbase is a lot larger than Reason userbase. That's where most of the money lies for NI.


Plus, the biggest problem/obstacle in porting NI's plugins to RE format is still the limitations of RE SDK... it still doesn't allow low-level assembler optimizations that all NI plugins are using. Without that, you can forget any NI REs.

 

+1

 

If NI were to do this they would certainly profit from it. The shop at reason has many other 3rd party instruments in it, but not a huge selection. Reason and NI and all of their users would only benefit from this kind of step.