Massive X CC/Midi control setup

Am I missing something? I find no way to control Massive X parameters via CC/Midi. Can I not assign a midi controller to, for instance, Filter Frequency?

 

Probably you'll need to use midi learn.
Have a look at this link....it may help.

 

I don't use Ableton Live so it's not much help to me. I find no such comparable feature in Logic Pro. Even if there is... how inane!? Pretty much every other synth on the planet, including the original Massive, has the feature built-in. NI really dropped the ball on this.

 

Apologise for my previous post….it was meant as a general suggestion regarding the midi learn function that is
usual for most virtual instruments / soft synths etc.
Hadn’t realised that the massive x has particular problems in achieving these settings with certain daw software.
Others have also reported such difficulties.

You’ve probably already explored various, possible “workarounds” found on the internet, but I’m not sure if they actually work.

I do hope this can be resolved.
Best Wishes.

 

The apology is entirely unnecessary. I appreciate your input. I'm thinking the only real resolution is for NI to step up with an update to the synth. I just shake my head that such a ubiquitous feature is missing in the first place.

 

You need to use the 16 macro knobs, those are the only ones that can be assigned.

 

Have you tried the Controller Assignment function in Logic? A very good video on this is:



Cheers

 

They aren't assignable either. They can be assigned to a function/parameter but I don't see any way to assign them to a midi/cc controller.

 

Thanks, I'll look into that but, at best, it would be a workaround... an inconvenient workaround.

 

I’ve done some quick tests with this, downloaded a demo version of Massive x and tried it out with cubase.
The midi assignment works fine, which indicates the problem is with the Logic settings and not Massive x itself.

There are several videos online that explain how to do a “midi learn”, even though actual midi cc numbers may not be shown.
Basically,click and assign is all that’s needed.

The following link is just one example that shows a method.


As a side note…..I tried using Garageband app (a distant relative to Logic…well, sort of…) but couldn’t progress with setting up the controls,
it doesn’t have the advanced tools etc.

Logic has a better facility to do so, though.
Further exploration is needed…..and I’m sure you’ll find the answer.

Do let us know how you get on.

Best Wishes.

 

I still can't fathom why NI didn't incorporate such a common elementary function into the synth. With nearly every other synth out there—including the original Massive—you simply right-click on a knob and a menu drops down to "Learn Midi". Doing it through the DAW means extra steps that have to be taken every time I load the synth. I continue to shake my head. I'm simply much less inclined to even bother with Massive X.

 

Don’t abandon this, just yet.
Give it a go with Logic settings (possibly saving it as a basic template).

As Massive x is a vst instrument, it can only work within a host, usually a daw, meaning that the host dictates midi cc assignment via
whichever controller is connected to it.
If Massive x was a stand alone app, things would be very different, of course.
I agree that the method of “Learn midi” would be easier for many.

In cubase, all I do is to drag the controller number from the top part of Massive x and place it wherever I choose.
There are so many places that can be assigned to a midi controller, but we only have a limited number available at
any given time, which will be hardware dependent.
(Midi learn,appears to be automatic).
These can be changed at any time, to suit…which is useful.

I have a basic,cheap,midi controller keyboard which has 8 knobs and 8 sliders, most, but not all, can be assigned to Massive x midi cc.
(I think cubase recognises what my keyboard has available….Logic needs an initial manual input…then saved, as suggested).

I’m sure that once Logic is set up to have its midi controllers active….Massive x should follow suit and behave properly.

Forgive the longwinded post, just trying to help within my limited means and encourage you to persevere a little longer.
You may be rewarded with a final result.

Best Wishes.

 

I do appreciate the input and I've messed with Logic's midi assignments and I've gotten it to work but, frankly, it's just not worth the trouble. Not only would I have to set it up every time I wanted to use Massive X, it's different with each preset so it would take even more time. I'm moving on. Thanks again.

 

Also, I have plenty of other AU/VST-only instruments that have the aforementioned "Midi Learn" function built-in. Not being Stand-Alone isn't an excuse for lacking simple common functionality. Just saying.

 

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I'm guessing they expect everyone to use a Komplete Kontrol keyboard, in which all 16 macro's are automatically premapped.

 

Good point. I wouldn't mind having one but I'm not replacing my existing gear just for that functionality.