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Metaphysical Function Automation Control

Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by michaelvsound, Feb 17, 2021.

  1. michaelvsound

    michaelvsound New Member

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    I'm trying to automate the faders in Metaphysical Function with my Komplete Kontrol S49 mk2.
    I can move the faders with the controller after assigning a MIDI controller to the fader, but it will not record the movements when I'm in automation record mode. However, it WILL record my fader movements when I use my mouse to control the fader.
    Any thoughts? Much appreciation in advance.
     
  2. Michael O'Hagan

    Michael O'Hagan NI Product Owner

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    I don't think controls being moved by midi send out automation data at all, only when being moved by the mouse.
     
  3. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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    Michael, you're wrong.
    Deep inside MF is one macro left to record movings from midi.
    Before NI publish MF there where such macros on each slider.
    In very later times I test it on different sliders. It works quiet well but it's a lot of work to rebuild MF.
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    midi record sliders in MF.png
    The upper window is in P1 - follow in path please
    Below my macro. You'll need a small button to switch one midi to slider only.
    Set the midi connection see pic 2.
    Attached my MIDI macro.
    pic 2 midi connections.png
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    update: 7:13 pm
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    Here my MF midi mod from Nov. '19
    upload_2021-2-17_19-13-32.png
     

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  4. michaelvsound

    michaelvsound New Member

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    Merci Paule, and thanks for making this ensemble. I'm using your 100_MFrep_midfiMod 004.ens but I still can't get the MIDI controller to automate the faders. I'm assuming that the toggle switch that you added under the automation button is to enable the MIDI controller to write automation? Is there something that I am missing? I am using Reactor 6.4.0.
    Thank you in advance.
     
  5. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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    Do you try to press a key for gate and hold it down. Use your wheel to change the pitch during record the fader.
     
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  6. michaelvsound

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    Some progress! I was able to record automation by running my fingers up and down the keyboard to raise and lower the fader.
    But I was unable to get the mod wheel to control the fader while holding a key down to open the gate.
    Do I need to assign the mod wheel as a controller somewhere?
    Merci beaucoup in advance.
     
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  7. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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  8. michaelvsound

    michaelvsound New Member

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    It works! Merci mille fois!
    I added a Pitch Bend module, merged with the key Gate, and it works great.
    I was hoping to use the Modulation Wheel or a knob on my midi controller to control the faders, but when I added a Controller module mapped to CC1 in place of the PitchBend module, the resolution of the fader jumped very quickly. I tried for hours to get the resolution lower, but I could not get it low enough to be useful. I even tried an Event Smoother module to slow it down, but no luck.
    Anyways, the pitch bend wheel as a controller works great. Thanks again, Mr. Paule
     
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  9. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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    Here is an easier solution for you. Using SpiralDUR a mod by Barry Galloway I use with Malletts in UL.
    Spiral to Gate in MF.png
    Paste SpiralDUR in MF ens and connect it to Gate.
    The other one is MRC (MIDI Remote Control) 0.96 iOS with Steam Pipe 2 ARP.
    MRC to Gate in MF.png
    Try to bring it to work, please

    In SpiralDUR you can easiely change the speed.
    In MRC change the MIDI notes

    EDIT - 2021-02-20
    Michael, here is an advantage version with 3 midi channels.
    Driven by SpiralDUR, meLodion and MRC ARP.
    https://www.native-instruments.com/de/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/14049/

    MF midi ch 1-3.png
     

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  10. michaelvsound

    michaelvsound New Member

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    3 different sequencers on 3 separate MIDI channels, very interesting application!
    I finally was able to get the modulation wheel to control the fader in the right manner. I just followed your directions! Thank again, Paule.
     

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  11. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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    Michael, you can record the faders also
     
  12. michaelvsound

    michaelvsound New Member

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    That’s great for when you find a satisfying combination and want to save it.
     
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  13. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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    Paule NI Product Owner

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  15. Catman Dude

    Catman Dude NI Product Owner

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    Nice work!
     
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  16. michaelvsound

    michaelvsound New Member

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    Awesome Paule! Ever evolving possibilities
     
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  17. Paule

    Paule NI Product Owner

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    I like to rummage through the innards of the Reaktor monsters. There is a lot to discover ... and to learn.
    And sometimes there are surprises.