MIDI file export or MIDI output ports

Total DAW Integration And 16 Channels Out

Hi guys at NI,

I love your Maschine but for me it is necessary to have total control with my DAW to the features of Maschine including MIDI control like it is with Battery. I would like to program my rhythms with Maschine but it should be possible to record the rhythm structure via midi to an Ableton Live clip for example. If that would be possible than I could build up my rhythms with maschine but could export it to Ableton Live and then I could arrange it in Ableton Live. In Battery I can play every sample with a mapped MIDI note and that is what I need for Maschine. So I don't need to use preprogrammed patterns of Maschine. It is a mess at the moment, if you want to arrange a track. It takes a lot more time as I would arrange it in Ableton Live itself. It is not so flexible at the moment.

The second thing is, please enlarge the amount of channels which can be routed to the DAW. I want to create kits with 16 sounds and I want to route it externally to the DAW to have every sound in its own channel. At the moment I'm only able to use kits with 8 sounds and I need 2 instances of Maschine to have control to all 16 sounds in their own channel.

I hope you improve Maschine and it will become the absolute killer application. Working and playing with it is making a lot of fun, but I need these 2 things to be absolutely satisfied.

I'm really confident that you will include that in the next updates. I hope you won't disappoint me and a lot of other people who would like to have that features included.

Cheers.

 

i agree better integration with DAWs is needed, and i also want to have the choice of 16 mono outs.

but you don't need to use the pre-programmed pattern that come with Maschine. they are just there for demo purposes.

also, setting up patterns in maschine is so easy that i prefer doing it that way than using a DAW.

to clarify, i feel too many people want to use maschine just as a Sound Module. if you just do that, you are not only missing the concept behind Maschine, but more importantly, the creative possibilities of a new way of working.

sowari

 

Yeah, I'm programming patterns by myself but then I need to arrange them in scenes. What I mean is, that I want to build up patterns in Maschine, but it would be nice to get the details of a pattern to a clip in Ableton Live. If that would be possible I don't need to use scenes for arrangement. I could use a range of midi notes to communicate with a special group and its samples in it. The programming of the rhythm is made in Maschine but I do not need to use the patterns for arrangement. I could record the MIDI notes if I'm happy with my pattern and later if I want to make a little change to one part of a pattern I do not need to create a new pattern and need to rearrange the scenes, no I could delete one or more MIDI notes in the clip and thats it.

I hope you understand what I mean. The creation happens in Maschine but arranging happens in the DAW.

Cheers.

 

yeah, i understand (and agree) and hopefully the guys at NI are listening

sowari

 

There are many different ways to use an instrument. That is why midi I/O is so important. Everyone has different needs.

For instance, I have been trying to get tight timing on Windows and finally achieved this with a good PCI interface for midi. I found that USB just cant get you the low jitter spec of certain PCI midi interfaces. Restricting the midi input to USB only throws all that away. For beat oriented hip hop music, timing is very important. I have MPC templates for my DAW that get me that nice feel when quantizing. That with tight midi input gives me what I need. I would love to use the Maschine sequencer but it lacks midi out and grove templates. If it opened up the midi in I could bypass those limitations. If we are restricted to the Maschine sequencer, it has to be able to compete with the sequencers we have.

Either way, both midi in and out are just essentials some can't get by without.

 

MIDI sync out, please.

This maschine is so great that you don´t really need more than it to make great tracks. As I understand machine can sync to external MIDI, but not send MIDI clock. If that is implemented it would be possible to play live with others just using maschine on two or more computers without another host. Freaking fun for us who still like to perfom with others...

 

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Maschine indeed sends clock.

ew

 

Ok then, that´s great! Couldn´t find it in the manual. Then there will be some jamming in a few days! Thanks for your response.

 

+1 for Midi In/Out and export!

 

I totally agree. It's kind of disappointing the way it is.

 

Hmmm... I have the Machine bought. The first funktion i search, after i play a Demosong, is the midi output routing.?
A sequenzer have no midi out, bad news!
I need Machine VST as audio fx (live sampling in Live7) and need virtual midi ports in- and out. In for midikeybord and out for kore, BFD...
Tanks NI Team for this important update

 

Hi,

I wonder if everybody of you checked this page, esp. FAQ Nr. 8.

http://www.native-instruments.com/newreleases/#/en/products/producer/maschine/?page=maschinefaq

Regarding the other requests in this thread, I can't say more at this moment.

Best,

Henning

 

Yes, sorry to drive this into the ground. So it looks like we can count on midi out to be there in an upcoming feature update. No need to go on about it since we've been heard.

 

Yes... I missed that FAQ. Will be looking forward to the update.

cheers

 

For me sending sync doesn't work. It's not mentioned in the manuals. I tried but it does not work. I also used a MIDI Monitor. There's no sync coming from Machine.

 

Maschine has External Sync Mode. so you can sync maschine to another Application.

sowari

 

Maschine can receive clocks, yes. That works well. But as far as I figured out it cannot send clocks.

If Maschine can do really send sync clocks, please tell me how to do so (and the manuals would need an update too). Which interface is sending the clocks? The MIDI out connetor on the back of the controller? Seems not to be the case (of course I enabled the output).

Since this is the feature request thread I'd also suggest to change the behaviour when in MIDI sync mode (incoming sync). When in sync mode I cannot use the Play button. Maschine only starts when external MIDI start command is received. It would be nice if the transport buttons would work even when syncing to external stuff. BTW, that's the way the Korg Electribe works. It listens to MIDI Start/Stop but you can always use the transport buttons.

 

fwiw, i didn't think that Maschine could send clocks - at the moment.

Eric, it would be great if you could contradict me with an example

sowari

 

I played along with this a few days ago... Maschine receives Clock indeed, but never ever sends a Clock signal.
When I use the OSX IAC driver for internal MIDI loopback and have 'midigram' listening, there is not MIDI Clock signal, hope this will be part of an update soon

I don`t know how other sequencers do this job, but Ableton Live acts in the same way than Maschine does. If Live is MIDI Clock Slave (== external sync enabled), there is no way of using then transport buttons.

It think it is usual behaviour, whenever a device hast external sync enabled. The Electribes where not able to use the transport buttons when the MIDI Clock setting was 'external' either!
There was an 'auto' function, which listens on the MIDI IN if there is a clock signal => if there is, the xternal sequencer has transport control, if not: the own transport buttons where active.

 

Yes, if the Electribe is in 'auto mode' the external sequencer gets transport control but the Electribe's transport buttons still work. And I just checked it again (just to be sure before posting here ). You can always stop the Electribe while Ableton is still running. And you can continue the Electribe by pressing the Play button.

The auto mode is nice, because you can focus on the groovebox to create patterns without the need to press transport buttons on another controller (or use the sequencer GUI).

Auto mode would be nice for Maschine!