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MIDI file export or MIDI output ports

Discussion in 'Feature Request Archive' started by slip, Feb 24, 2009.

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  1. b-righteous

    b-righteous Moderator Moderator

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    My Motif XS has this sync mode. Auto sync mode would be a great addition.
     
  2. andyt

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    map midi note to a pattern

    need to be able to map a midi note to a pattern.

    you know...kind of like...an MPC...or... ANY SAMPLER made in our lifetime thus far <except "maschine">?

    because CAPTURING the sequencing of the quantized triggering of patterns is kind of the essence of electronic music.

    without it, you basically have a typewriter with a really great ink ribbon BUT without the paper, think about it.
     
  3. b-righteous

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    The same for scenes but even more so. Forget about program change commands. It would be great to trigger scenes in real time from your DAW with midi.
     
  4. jbone1313

    jbone1313 NI Product Owner

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    +1 Heck yes
     
  5. mcq714

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    Midi note recording in DAW

    Not sure if this has already been covered in here because I don't really know what you'd call it, but I noticed yesterday when I tried to record the pattern I was playing into a midi track that no notes were actually being recorded. I want to be able to arm the midi track and record midi notes just as you would with Battery and a padKontrol. in other words, i want to see the notes i played in the note editor window in a host application for rearranging and editing velocity, etc.
     
  6. mcq714

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    oops... just started a new thread before i noticed this one.

    +1
     
  7. 8ball

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    +10000000000 WE NEED THIS !
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    +1 totally agree this is how we do it in 2009 ! wake up !
     
  8. jbone1313

    jbone1313 NI Product Owner

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    I don't think I would like the drag/drop feature as much as simple MIDI in and out for each group. (Though it would be nice too.)

    What's more important IMO, is something like this:

    Feature: Allow each group to receive MIDI from a sequencer track, and allow each group to send MIDI to a sequencer track. Maybe each group could operate on its own MIDI channel.

    This allows two extremely powerful work flows:

    1. You can use Maschine's patterns and scenes to drive other plugins.
    2. You could program Maschine's sounds from a sequencer's MIDI track like you would with Battery.

    I agree with Sowari, that once you get to know Maschine's sequencer, number (2) becomes less of an issue. However, its still a really usefull and nice thing to have. Number (1) is a must for me.
     
  9. 8ball

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    I think in opposition that with a Drag & Drop feature we can be sure that the MIDI clip IS the exact same as the one build in the Maschine sequencer. Recording MIDI on the other end always introduce latency, which change your groove. I work on groove alot, at having my own groove. 2ms of latency in a whole pattern change a lot of things and is not what I did indeed.

    I need a proper Drag & Drop function that reflect exactly what i did in the Maschine sequencer...
     
  10. JBlongz

    JBlongz NI Product Owner

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    New/alternate Maschine Software

    Discovering all the current problems with Maschine's software integration leaves me only wanting what most DAW-driven users want:

    NI should design a separate software plugin for the sole purpose of triggering Maschine's sounds from a DAW like Ableton, Pro Tools, Logic etc. For example, I should be able to trigger the drum kits via a clip from ableton live, or a region inside of protools/logic. This would definitely mean removing the sequencer function out of the way and leaving the sound library. The 8 groups on the controller should represent 8 midi channel options per plugin, while reserving the ability to have 8 different groups of sounds, instruments, etc. It could just be the drummer version of Kore, but more organized than Battery. I do love the browsing feature, but the sequencing theory just won't work for most of us.

    I am NOT saying to do away with the current standalone sequencer entirely. Just keep it separate as it remains an affordable way to get hobby work done. We professionals need to be catered to as well.

    If I hit the spot, I would like all user of this product to leave feedback on this thread. :D
     
  11. ew

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    Once again, MIDI out for the plugin's coming. Then, you'll be able to record Maschine's output as MIDI inyour sequencer of choice.

    ew
     
  12. Joshua LEE

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    I also am finding Maschine's performance as a plug-in to be uninspiring... It works a treat in stand-alone, but I am realistically not going to be using it in stand-alone mode that much, so it does almost seem as if the sequencer is getting in the way sometimes, if that is what is is preventing me from using Maschine in a useful way as a plug-in.

    Personally, I just wish they would integrate the sequencer better as a plug-in, as it has much potential. I am curious as to what extent adding MIDI out is going to improve the situation here, because so far the fun-factor that Maschine has doesn't really carry over to the plug-in version, which is probably the fashion most people are using it in... The lack of automation is also incredibly frustrating, too.

    I do not mean to seem negative, but for the price we have paid for this thing, I think we should have high expectations...
     
  13. JBlongz

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    Unfortunately, Midi out will not solve the problem with plugin support. It will only allow midi note to be recorded into the Daw, but that same recording won't be able to speak to the software properly. In that case whats the difference between this $600 device and the $300 MPD32 other than some eye candy.

    We need an alternate software for FULL plugin support. I feel totally baited right now.
     
  14. ew

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    I should have stated it differently here; sorry. Full automation's also on the update schedule as fae as I know. And, while that won't be MIDI, it will be recordable host automation.

    As for feeling baited, the info's been there since before Maschine was released, both in the FAQ and here on the forum.

    ew
     
  15. JBlongz

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    Midi out will simply make this another Akai MPD, what about those 5gb of sounds that we wanna use? Not to mention the great sample browser along with that. What NI fails to realize is that we want the core features, which the ability to use the controller, samples, AND the browser without depending on the Maschine's sequencer. NOT just one of these features.
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  16. ew

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    You can always record the audio tracks if you feel that limited. That's the way I work with Maschine and Live; just jam on the pads in realtime and record the audio.

    ew
     
  17. JBlongz

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    I honestly feel insulted by that suggestion. We live in the day where audio is the last step unless you're recording a real instrument. Midi gives us options to swap out sounds on demand without the need for recording it again. With a controller, we expect to get the best out of midi. Don't have us settle for less. The more you try to understand what we're looking for, the better business will be.

    I support the potential of NI but kinetically speaking, the programmers fall too short on this one. And I speak as a C++ programmer as well.
     
  18. jbone1313

    jbone1313 NI Product Owner

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    Does that mean no MIDI in as well?
     
  19. JBlongz

    JBlongz NI Product Owner

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    Thats right..what they are saying is that you WON'T be able to use Maschine's sounds without using their sequencer. You will NOT be able to use your DAW's midi tracks to play Maschine's samples and instruments.

    ...Turns you off right?
     
  20. jbone1313

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    I'm no fanboy, but I still think Maschine will rock without MIDI in.

    MIDI out is essential though.

    I actually really dig Maschine's sequencer.

    I would still REALLY like to have MIDI in too. Plus, it really ought to go both ways considering how much it costs.
     
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