Midi mapping support

Hi guys!

• ADDED MIDI mapping support for third party controllers
  It is now possible to control some of KOMPLETE KONTROL's parameters via a third party MIDI controller. These include the 8 knobs of the NATIVE MAP, parameter page switching, plugin switching if more than one plugin is instantiated in the plugin chain, and preset switching

How do i do this? In Komplete Kontrol software, in the view menu, the option "Midi Learn" is greyed out, so I don`t see no possibility to control any of the mentioned above by external sources. No documentation about it to be found online!
Thanks in advance?

 

You have to select your third party controllers in the preferences.

 

Hi Ryan!
They are all selected. Still greyed out.

 

Select them one by one and move your knobs/buttons on your controller for the mapping. I am assuming you are using standalone application.

 

I had the same problem (using a Mac).

In my case, I had to start the Komplete Kontrol software while the Kontrol S hardware wasn't connected. Then the midi mapping was enabled and any third party controller could be mapped. After reconnecting the Kontrol S, the Midi learn was disabled again, but the previously made mappings keep on working.

Hope that this helps anyone running in the same problem.

 

you can midi learn if no native controller is present for kk software then just press m and there you go
and i have to say really good job native !!
but a little bit explanation about this would be cool

Uwe

 

Yeah, perhaps a tutorial/blog on this will be a good idea.

 

Really? I can make one but it's just 3 steps, literally:

1. Press MIDI Button,
2. Select KK knob
3. Rotate a knob on the controller... Done.

 

Hi guys! Thanks for all of your help. After hours of trying, I also found out, that I can see the Midi-button only when the KK is disconnected or turned off. A little immediate documentation on this from NI could have helped me save hours. OMG!
The crucial thing though is, that the midi-mapping stays active in the background, even if I can't access the settings with KK connected and/or turned on, meaning that I don't see it.
In my case it led to something interesting: The external controller I midi-learned for the first knob of KK used the value 64. Later working with KK as plugin in Cubase one of my instrument tracks had Pedal-events using cc64 on it, witch led to pitch manipulations of the sound via the parameter mapped to the first knob in KK software.
NI, I don't see any reason, why one can't access and check midi-mapping anytime.
Best,
Mads
MacOS 10.13.5, Cubase Pro 9.5, NI Komplete 10

 

I agree. Yeah, this behavior is pretty silly and unintuitive, especially when there are cheaper keyboards aimed at the hobbyist market.
I have a really hard time understanding why something so obvious wasn't addressed before release.
Even the sub-menu option is greyed out when a KK keyboard is connected.

 

Took me a long time to find this thread! Thanks for the solution! Is this just one of many unfixed bugs? The MIDI button gets overwritten with the hardware button? Crazy! It's not like we haven't paid enough for this equipment + all it's addon software packages!

 

Welcome to the Native Instruments eco-system. Please enjoy your stay!

 

I have the same situation where I see the midi learning option when the kk hardware is not connected only. So you guys say that even without connecting it it is possible to edit the parameters? How? Can someone please help me? When I connect the KK back it greys out back again. Thanks

 

The button does disappear again when you reconnect the KK keyboard, but thankfully the software remembers the assignments you make when the keyboard is not connected. So... disconnect your keyboard, then assign MIDI, then reconnect the keyboard and the assigned controllers should work. They do here.

I've complained bitterly about the poor quality of the KK software in another thread, only to be told it's perfectly OK and everyone's just fine about it, but let's hope it gets improved.

 

Thanks, the only problem is that even when the controller is disconnected it doesn't let me assign anything at all.

 

Hey guys, resurrecting this thread! I'm curious about some of the limitations of mapping 3rd party controllers. I've heard the browse mode with he encoder is something that can't be done with a 3rd party controller. Is this true? Are there any other limitations?

 

I realize this post is a little old, but I can't seem to get this working with the Orchestral Tools Berlin Inspire plugin... I did as described above.. turned off my controller keyboard, then MIDI Learn was enabled (not grayed out)... THIS IS NOT INTUITIVE!!! But then I can't figure out how to map the controls between the plugin and the knobs... Anyone know if OT's plugin doesn't work with the control mapping?

This is SO stupid. IN the area below the knobs it states, "Turn a knob on your MIDI controller to assign it to the selected control in the panel above." If the controller is OFF, how do you do that? This makes no sense at all! Can someone post a video with a little more detail than the one already posted?

Ok, I discovered WITH my controller on, you can right-click only certain controls in the OT plugin and select 'Learn MIDI CC# Automation'. I'm guessing this is an unusual implementation of MIDI learn for a plugin? Because nothing I'm doing matches what everyone's been talking about, but the only ones editable are the ones that have already been premapped when I installed the plugin. Is the ability to use MIDI learn with a plugin's controls partially dependent on the developer's programming of the controls to receive MIDI learn commands?

What am I missing here?

 

Prob more time with the manual

What you are describing with the MIDI symbol is how you map a 3rd party CONTROLLER to use with KK, not how you map parameters within a plugin to the KK software for use with a KK keyboard.

It depends on the plugin, not every control in a plugin is open for mapping but to save you a few seconds of researching the manual or YT:


Click this


Delete all pages if any are displayed then ADD a page clicking as below, then ENABLE LEARN as below then grab a control with the mouse in your VST instrument and MOVE it in some direction.


The parameter (if host automation enabled by the developer) should now pop up on the page where it should now be displayed on your KK keyboard.

 

Okay, I'll crack open the manual, but if the Komplete Kontrol interface was more intuitive, the manual wouldn't be so absolutely necessary.

 

Well manuals not completely required, some just have better skills to dig and figure things out, the manuals helpful for the rest that cant.