Midi Page selection still broken in v3.2??

Hi chill, I don't quite understand why you do this...

As long as NI don't fix the trigger function all the work you've put into the midi pages is worth nothing. And it's over a year that this bug was brought to their attention and they've not only done nothing about it but even reduced the modes from two to one. What makes you believe this is going to change any time soon?

And don't forget that even with the trigger function present, there's the buggy soft-takeover issue. That's another headache coming your way. And again, this is something that's probably not too hard to fix, but someone's got to do it and judging from previous bug-fixing-speeds I'll be in my retirement home playing the DJ for some hot grandmas when the fix is here =)

Luis just sent me an even newer version of the konverter that addresses all probs apart from the jogs only supporting 2 out of 3 functions. That's a solution that works as in "I've used it during gigs and it was stable and reliable for hours". That's what I'm looking for, not "hopefully the next Traktor finally has what I need".

Whatever, at least it doesn't get boring =)

Cheers, h00la

 

@h00la

1. it is working to change pages via my keyboard method very good and 100% stable too. ok not that easy as using the lever of the kontrol-dj.

2. i don't have to sacrifice an other jog function.

i am really feeling ashame. :S
but could you please explain in detail what you exactley mean with this issue? i have heard about the issue many times, but i don't know the meaning.

100% agree.
;-)

cheers
chill

 

No need for shame - if I were feeling ashamed for every feature I didn't know Traktor can (or cannot) do, I'd have my head explode from constantly blushing

Soft-takeover is one of the options the program can adopt to handle a situation where a controller control is not in the same position as the corresponding Traktor (software-) control.

Let's assume you switch from, say, deck 1 to deck 3 and change the bass eq settings for deck 3, then switch back to deck 1. Now your controller eq button is out of synch from Traktor's eq knob for deck 1. Then when you turn the eq knob on the controller, Traktor can either immediately jump to the new current position of the controller knob. Or - and this is called soft-takeover - not do anything until the knob position becomes the same as the software position and only then react again to the knob changes.

In the case of 4-deck control, this soft-takeover feature is what you want; otherwise if deck 3 was at, say, full bass and deck 1 at zero bass, after switching back to deck 1 you weren't able to softly increase the bass setting (because the software control would jump to the full setting immediately when you touch the knob).

In the last versions of Traktor 3 where I tried this, it didn't work properly. Since I found that the Kontrol-DJ interface driver ("konverter") handles this stably, I haven't touched Traktor's midi page feature anymore. Did they fix at least this problem in one of the new versions? Would be interesting to know...

Cheers, h00la

 

h00la,

thanx for your very detailed explanations. now i know what you guys mean with "soft takeover"
at the moment i am on holiday.
back home i will check it and post it here.

cheers
chill

 

unfortunately the softtakeover function is not working as it should.

i have tested it. it is working just one time, that is exactley after having activated the function. if you are trying it a second time it is reacting in the old way and makes "jumpes"

cheers
chill

 

Nice, isn't it? And I so don't understand why this hasn't been fixed yet. No serious 4-deck functions until this works.

And for some reason there's loads of "Traktor ready" controllers and the only one I know of that fixed this *externally* doesn't get that sticker... Yes, that would be the KontrolDJ. Actually, 2 chained faderfoxes would do as well; in that case because they would simply not use those midi pages at all... Oh, and of course the faderfox doesn't have that cool sticker either...<rant off>

-h00la

 

No point using controller pages without two-way communication

Hi All
Also with the latest Traktor release 3.3.1 pages are no use to me, because the controllers are not updated. I prefer to use the 3 additional encoder groups per preset and various presets on my BCR2000, which is perfectly capable to keep the status of every controller in memory after power up - per preset!
badibeat

 

@BadiBeat, I'm not following what you are saying. I do the same thing as you on several presets and don't have problems. I can use the presets buttons to either switch the midi pages in Traktor or to do presets on the controller, you cannot get it to do both however and that is due to the fact that the BCR produces no midi events when the top 4 buttons do presets internally. The value of the BCR control system is that its so flexible you can get it to pretty much everything, something that many other MUCH more expensive controllers cannot do.

Phil