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Mikro, MK2, or MPC Studio with S61?

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by ChinmayL, May 10, 2015.

  1. InversionOfControl

    InversionOfControl NI Product Owner

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    I feared that was the case . And I suppose given we're on v2.3 now and they still haven't implemented that, I guess they never will. And yet it would be such a logical thing to be able to do :(
     
  2. alpert

    alpert NI Product Owner

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    You mean edit midi events i think? From the controller?
    Joka, please tell me what is the key combination, because i couldnt have discovered it!..
     
  3. alpert

    alpert NI Product Owner

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    you guys have some key kombinations for mikro that you edit midi notes right?
    i have tried and found nothing about it, please share at least.. how to enter event mode.

    Damn i couldnt figure what ewerybody knows!!
     
  4. InversionOfControl

    InversionOfControl NI Product Owner

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    I think they mean you can nudge / change note of the currently selected events.

    But what we don't appear to be able to do is choose an individual, specific event to edit - which is annoying, because it's so easy to do on the Studio and the Mikro could definitely do it with a SHIFT combo or something.
     
  5. Joca

    Joca NI Product Owner

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    As previously stated, page 274 of the manual explains what is possible from the Mikro with regard to event editing. Unfortunately, from the controller you are limited to all events of the same sound or all events of the same pitch.

    On the full size controllers the "event select" screens show a row of 7 parameters (controlled by the encoders) that can fine control exactly which event/events you want to edit. Not sure how this could be easily implemented on the Mikro (I no longer have a Mikro).
     
  6. InversionOfControl

    InversionOfControl NI Product Owner

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    I would see it being implemented so that when in step sequencer mode, tap and hold down a lit pad for 1 second to change selection to that event. Or when in step sequencer mode, hold down SHIFT + one of the left / right buttons to cycle through the events.
     
  7. Joca

    Joca NI Product Owner

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    You have to remember that the software is the same across all controllers. Your first suggestion would interfere with step modulation (which is not featured on the Mikro).
     
  8. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    but the way you control this one piece of software from these several controllers is not identical, so surely something is possible
     
  9. InversionOfControl

    InversionOfControl NI Product Owner

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    Yeah - I'm so impressed by how much the Mikro IS able to do, it just seems odd that this quite basic and useful functionality isn't available.
     
  10. Joca

    Joca NI Product Owner

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    Sure something is always possible, it's just that it may not be as easy as people imagine.

    The bigger controllers also have the same functionality as the Mikro when event editing because the pads are also used to select all events of the same sound or the same pitch. The extra functionality of the larger controllers makes use of the extra encoders and screen real estate.

    I suspect that there is a lot of commonality with regard to the signals sent from the various controllers to the software and particularly where the controls are identical (pads, transport, etc.).
     
  11. alpert

    alpert NI Product Owner

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    You can not select events from mikro controller.
    you cannot select from left to right or lower or upper notes. You can select all only.
    and transpoze, delete-quantize etc, if you call this event editing..

    I dont understand what the thing is you are correcting..
    NO you can not.
    You can not select spesific notes/ranges, move them, edit one by one. Like you can with regular maschine. You can't edit events with mikro.
    You cant adjust lenght, velocity or move notes (independently, you can nudge them together only).
    Event editing is mikro's restriction.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2015
  12. Joca

    Joca NI Product Owner

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    Yes you can edit events via the Mikro controller and there is a section in the manual which explains how to do it (you can cut, copy, paste, delete, transpose and nudge specific groups of notes). However, the Mikro does not give you the same degree of event editing as the larger controllers mainly in that you cannot select/edit an individual event or a user specified group of events .

    What you cannot do at all on the Mikro is record step modulation and if you compare the manual of the Mikro with the manuals of the larger controllers you will see that there is no section for this in the Mikro's manual.
     
  13. alpert

    alpert NI Product Owner

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    We seem to agree with the words of disagree :)
    The thing is, all other features fully function with mikro controller except event editing features (and yes step automation doesnt exist.)
    No other function is "limited edition" like event editing.
     
  14. Joca

    Joca NI Product Owner

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    OK lets agree to disagree or even disagree to agree. :)

    FWIW I find that it is easier to look at the computer screen when editing individual or specific groups of events (as opposed to the one line display on my controller) and of course if you are going to be looking at the computer screen you may as well use the mouse instead of the encoders.

    I suspect that individual note editing from the controller is best achieved on a Maschine Studio.