MONARK presets clipping?

Is it just me or are all the monark patches clipping?

 

Whats youre computer specs?
You shoold be able to load and play a few witouth spiking

 

it's not quite clipping just seems every preset is overly compressed or something. The peak meter is constantly in the red zone.

Kind of sounds like everything is being squashed like a brickline limiter.

 

we need to know whether you are using a Mac or PC

and what is the Audio Buffer size in your Audio Settings?

sowari

 

Im on a PC buffer size is 128. My comment on this is more from a programming angle. It seems every patch is way too hot.

 

you could try turning the Volume down where the Meter is at the top.

and this also depends on your Audio Device/Soundcard.

128 is quite a small buffer size.

and i don't get any clipping on my Mac.

sowari

 

Are you playing Monark via a keyboard? If so check the velocity scaling - it could be set wrong.

 

If it's not actually clipping then it's just Monark being Monark. They built the capacity for lots of aggression and saturation into the circuit emulation and some (ok, many) of the presets overdo it. If it's too hot for what you're used to, lean back on the load control and sculpt the amp decay and sustain a bit.

It's still going to be a really dominant sound in your mix in any circumstances though... IMO the only softsynths in Monark's ballpark in terms of presence and aggression are Synth Squad and Massive.

 

I can actually get down to 64 samples. I am using RME UFX

Yeah, its not actually clipping,its just that all the presets sound completely squashed. I own three minimoog voyagers and they don't sound anywhere near as hot. Sure you can get here but it sounds like ass, and all the dynamics are gone. I'm just surprised that they wouldn't of showcased the presets with a little more moderation.

When I was auditioning it, I found it annoying that I had to lower the volume drastically on almost every preset.
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No, I have my controller set up how I like it.

As an aside, when I edit the velocity in a score editor, monark does not seem to be responsive to velocity. That is crazyyyy.

Velocity and pressure are 2 of the modulation buss shaping on the actual moog.
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Yeah, I'm not sure I will be able to use this much. It reminds me of the fatigue endured from listening to so many ill-masstered dynamic squashing mixes.

 

You should check out these presets for Monark based on vintage patch sheets:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5318409

They offer perhaps a more moderate view of what Monark can do...

 

you clearly don't understand about how an Analogue MiniMoog works, please do some research.

i repeat, i do not get clipping and the sounds don't sound 'squashed' to me. try a higher buffer size,

imho the Presets are great.

sowari

 

I Totally agree!

 

I've had similar problem, signal too hot getting red level on the meter on some UL ensembles on some rare cases. I just lower the white triangle below the meter and save the ensemble... I don't know why some ensembles product consistent too strong signal as the creator apparently don't made this on purpose.

 

What would you suggest I research? You just left a blanket statement there without anything to back it up.
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So this is based off the model-d and not the voyager..maybe thats what you referring too. got it.

 

Buffer size has NOTHING to do with how a softsynth sounds. And Monark is so far from what an analog Mini Moog sounds like it's not even funny. Thankfully I have my Moog Voyager and the Arturia softsynths
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Good to see another Voyager owner - got a rack mount Voyager a couple of years back - one sweet synth. I only mentioned the velocity scaling ad that can screw up a sound something fierce if one isn't careful. As to buffer - that has nothing to do with how a softsynth sounds.

 

I think he thought my buffer was too small introducing pops/crackles. But it's obv the programming. Alot of people think loud = better. more power to em.

 

So do you know a softsynth that comes closer to it than Monark?
Please share

 

When I adjust the mixer it sounds pretty good. I also layered it with a couple voyagers and it blended in really well.
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Was testing out spark and prism. Those presets aren't all squashed. Some even seem to be a bit to low.

 

you are wrong!

small buffer sizes can lead to distortion.

sowari

 

https://soundcloud.com/nativeinstruments/monark-a-b-comparison

I have to disagree!