MONARK presets clipping?

i was also thinking this, but one n2 seems to be using a Mac and the other a PC.

sowari


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Best way I can describe it is take a look at the wave file in the a/b test and you'll see some parts where the entire top of the waveform is lopped off.

I never said this was not the desired effect, but that too many presets had this characteristic.

sowarmi then changed it into a buffer, system issue.

Thats also why i changed the wording from clipping to squashed.

Alot of the presets have the mixer section overloaded,

 

We both don't think Monark is all that and a bag of chips too. Other than that we're two totally different people. Part of my screenname has to do with a hobby I enjoy.

 

i am giving up trying to help you.

you fail to answer questions about your computer and soundcard/audio device.

i also don't think you understand how Monark works or exactly how it is emulating a MiniMoog.

look at the Mixer and the Load knob and Feedback control. do some research about these controls and why they are there.

anyway, i suggest you get in touch with tech support - but if you do make sure you give them the full specs of your computer and sound card/audio device.

sowari

 

Nope - two totally different people. No conspiracy theory here. All I said in the other thread was Razor would have been a better fit for inclusion in the K9 upgrade than Monark.

 

My specs are below, but again. My entire post was on the fact that the presets don't really appeal to my style. They are too hot.

Sabertooth Z77
Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo)
2 x G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (PC3 12800)
2 x Crucial M4 CT512M4SSD2 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
RME UFX
2x NVIDIA 680GTX
1200watt power supply
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These guys must of taken alot flack in the past, overly defensive.

 

There are at least a couple of possible reasons I can think of for the 'issues' highlighted in this thread.

Obvious reason: It's well known that variability in components means that a soft synth that very closely emulates one particular Moog might be some way off sounding like another particular Moog. Doesn't mean it's not a good emulation.

Less obvious reason: A company releasing a product really needs to prove that it is in some way better than it's competitors. One way in which Monark is supposed to be better is in the way it handles saturation. When you consider that, it's hardly surprising that many of the patches are pushing the thing into compression and soft clipping/saturation. How else are they going to demonstrate their advantage in that area?

 

Until you provide a wav and a screen shot making that sound I cannot help you...

 

Have to agree - if you don't buy their opinion of something yours is wrong. And once they get on to something like the buffer size issue - I challenged sowari to show how he thinks buffer size relates to the issue of clipping he hasn't come back with an answer.

 

Why challenge Sowari?

Isnt it more effective if the one that has a problem first shows a screenshot etc to proof his "problem" so we can see that first?

Seems you are the same person afterall imo....

 

Why NOT challenge sowari? He made the claim and I asked for proof which he won't or can't supply. You can't prove a problem like this with a screenshot.

And no - we're are NOT the same person but then again you already have your mind made up and there's apparently no way you're going to change that.

 

:lol:

imho based on personal experience with a number of Audio Devices and especially evident with the Mac's built-in Soundcard i will get what sounds like Audio Clipping when i use small buffer sizes.

fwiw, i have got used to 512 on my Macs and stick to that.

also opinions are subjective and relate to ones taste in music, and your taste is based on the 1970s

sowari

 

Still no objective proof. And anybody who even thinks they can get a decent sound out of the Mac's built-in soundcard is way mistaken. I would never use any computer's built-in sound I/O for objective audio work. Like I said all a buffer does is to allow more time for a computer to do it's thing. Low buffers may cause clicks and pops due to audio dropouts but clipping - that's overload pure and simple probably due to overdriving the d/a converters.

You have no idea what my music tastes are based on. Yes I lived through the 70's and I know the sound well and if there's a piece of software or hardware that's trying to emulate that sound it had better be right on, no close enough for hand grenades and horseshoes. Born in 1952 so my music experience and tastes run through all kinds of eras. Not to say I like them all (rap, disco, edm and techno are anathema to me) but you can't pin down my tastes to any one era or style over another. I'll do metal one day, country another, classical or jazz or blues on other days.

 

from NI's site:

http://www.native-instruments.com/knowledge/questions/847/Windows+7+Tuning+Tips+for+Audio+Processing

please note the use of the word 'distortion' in relation to the audio buffer.

 

I said screenshot etc. Because this was asked before but ignored by TO....
If its spiking , wich you can see and if it sounds not the way it should you can show this with a screenshot and a sounddemo....

But hey why do i even bother, if you dont like it, dont use it. You dont have to like and use it.
that said, Everybody i spoke loves Monark and never heard of the problems you have, with 2 exceptions and those where the persons in this topic....

Good day sir , to bad you dont like Monark because its a great product

 

my personal guess is made up from what you have said in the past - and you have mentioned stuff from the 70s - and i know you don't like dance music.

fwiw, i was born in 1957. in terms of 1970s Synth stuff, i love Kraftwerk. i then love some 80s UK 'Synth Pop' and a lot of underground dance music from the late 80s onwards.

i also like very experimental electronica, and free improv.

i don't do country, i don't do metal, i rarely do classical- but i am classically trained - i don't do blues. jazz has influenced my chords and rhythms, so it is always part of my music.

i would say our tastes are really different which means our opinion of Monark - which can do any of the styles of music that i am into - would be quite different.


btw, what 'Objective' proof do you have regarding 'clipping' on Monark's Outputs?

sowari