Solved Monitor with effects

Allow us to monitor with effects on. For instance say I've got a drum groove and I am using the sampler to listen to my own guitar with monitor on then I'd like to be able to listen with a plug-in such as guitar rig while practicing my riff.

 

I just tested adding GR as FX and I was able to Monitor with while hearing the FX just fine.
How did you setup your Pad when you tried it?

 

How did you add it? What were the steps you used? I will experiment and see if I can fix it.

I am talking about monitoring live with effects on so that I may be able to hear the effects along with my guitar while I am playing it. So far I can do it, if I record a sample of my riff and then add effects.

This shows how to do it but in the older version

 

Try these steps:

1. Select a Pad go to Sound>Input and select your Audio Source.
2. Add a Sampler or Audio Module to the Pad.
3. Add your FX chain.
4. Go to Sampling and press the > button 3 times and turn "Monitor" On.
5. Play some notes on your guitar and you should be hearing the FX as you play.

 

Here is my screen shot. I can hear the guitar. The monitor is on. But I still can not hear guitar rig 5.
I have a preset loaded in guitar rig. Both inputs are on. As you can see from the picture with guitar rig
I have no audio signal being routed to gutiar rig. However I can hear the guitar without the FX.

 

Well I'm lost here, on my setup with those exact settings I can monitor the FX affecting my Mic, however, Monitor is always On and turning it Off doesn't do anything... I have custom OSX drivers to enable loopback and routing Audio between applications virtually so that might be affecting me in a specific way.

I'll move this thread to the general Maschine forum to see what others users report.

 

Must be something special you have going D-One. In the latest release version, you can't monitor with FX that way. You can monitor through the sound itself by routing the input directly to the sound. You do this by going to sound>channel>input>audio and set the source to the appropriate input on your soundcard. Do not add an instrument to the sound such as the sampler or audio module. Instead, add an effect on the first slot. If the sound is selected and using default routing you should hear the input post effects.

 

My mom always told me I'm special I guess shes right
So we can monitor with FX as long as there's no Sampler/Audio Module on the Pad? That way once we sample/record something the FX is replaced with the module. How about Send FX, does that work to monitor with FX? I can't really test it since this works differently for me.

 

Any instrument inserted will break the routing path. There is no audio input for instruments.
If the desire is to sample, you can still do it by setting the sampling source to internal. You would make the sound from the example above the source and the destination would be a different sound you have selected. That way you are sampling the output of the first sound post FX.

 

That means that we end up recording the Audio with FX destructively, meaning the FX is applied to the sampled material and no longer editable correct?

 

Here is where I got it to work.
I'll upload a photo to demonstrate

On Pad one I loaded Guitar Rig
Then clicked on the button that looks like a dial, just left of master.
Put my audio source to the correct input
Now I can hear my guitars input through the effects. Yay.

Tthen on pad two I went to sample in order to record my guitar. Fortunately the guitar records DRY. Although I feel there should be an option to record either wet or dry.

When I tried to record on Pad 1 (where I have my FX coming in) It would erase my FX channel and turn into the Sampler.

I also would like to note that it is strange that I can not access my main transport page when recording a sample. At the very least at the top of the transport on the Computer Screen I should be able to see the time and bars I am at. This just helps for a visual guide.

I'll upload a photo

What is nice in other sequencers is the transport areas are configurable. So we can choose to have stop, start, rewind, record, play, and have our time and quantize, midi snap available, etc. I think it would be beneficial for Maschine to add this to the transport window.

I suppose that Maschine used in conjunction with other DAWS is the best way to get the results I want. Next step is learning total cubase integration.

Thank you guys for your help. At least we got one kink ironed out!

 

The FX are heard when an audio input has been selected for a pad/sound.
The FX are not heard when using the monitor function under sampling.

If you record just one instrument or source i guess using a pad/sound input for monitoring is fine, but if you're using different instruments connected to different inputs then it's a mess, since you need to manually enable and disable the inputs.

Since we have a monitor function under sampling then it's logical that we should be able to monitor also with FX, hope this function is added soon.

 

Any improvement on this? Would be great to sample without effects… but hearing effects on monitor.

 

It's just a matter of understanding the routing.

Disable the option to monitor when sampling. Enable to audio input on any pad, pick the input you want to hear and route it to whatever effects you want. You'll hear the effects in real time and your recording will be dry

 

Thanks. That worked perfectly! I do have a Novation Bass Station on Audio + Midi and my Guitar (Midi Guitar 2) to Midi AND the option of playing along with live Guitar (or recording to sammples) with Guitar Rig now...

I have Maschine, an Arturia Keystep 37, M-Audio Code49 plus Bass Station connected and play nearly all together with Arturia Soft-Synth (on a MacBook Pro Max) .

It really works, if you understand the routing. Thanks again for the support.

 

Oh... Thanks, darkwaves, that works. I read your post like 10 times and was so confused and it's so simple. xD

So the "Source" Input also has to have the channel selected not just the "Sampler"... I kind of assumed selecting the IN in the Sampler would basically be the same as selecting it on the Pad itself, like a mirrored split routing, guess not.



Marking this thread as solved.