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Discussion in 'Feature Suggestions' started by DrDre, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Expand them in what way?

    But yes, I'm still waiting for these increases. Come on, NI, just put a 6 in front of the 4 in the code and give us 64 inputs. :p
     
  2. HammyHavoc

    HammyHavoc NI Product Owner

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    In engineer terms, it's like a digital patchbay. In Eurorack terms, it's like a mult. Gives a bit more flexibility for routing and getting creative without major headache rerouting things and worrying about what's going where.

    I've got a script saved in Reaper to swap routings with a button press too if I need to mess with live drums and then go back to the other routing in another press.

    It's still a headache, but nowhere near as much of one. Still want and need more ins and outs from Maschine!
     
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  3. Cryptokrsnait

    Cryptokrsnait New Member

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    I spent a lot of time routing MIDI and audio from my DAW, and came to a decision in which the machine works independently as a master host. MIDI data sends via virtual buses in the Copperlan manager, this works fine, since I can directly select these MIDI inputs and outputs in the machine itself, and any other DAW.

    Thus, I get an unlimited number of MIDI channels, and I am able to write notes in DAW for each sound separately, with out any limitation.
    Also i try figured out transport and time synchronization, first tests were successful. The machine in the arrangement mode can control the timeline position of another DAW.

    The problem is only with the audio signal. If virtual buses could be selevted not only in the input output menu, but like virtual MIDI channels directly in the sound and group, this would solve the problem.

    NI, please add more input and output or make virtual audio bus selectable directly from sound or group! With this update, Maschine will have perfect integration with any DAW as a master host.
     
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  4. Wilmar Boer

    Wilmar Boer NI Product Owner

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    And while working on this. Please implement logical naming of inputs and outputs too. So in my case I can choose "Roland JV1080 L/R" in stead of "Input 1/2". Ableton is a good example of a nice implementation of Input/output naming.
     
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  5. HammyHavoc

    HammyHavoc NI Product Owner

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    Yes please. After doing this in Reaper, it's so weird to go back to a numerical naming scheme within Maschine.
     
  6. Nikita Katilis

    Nikita Katilis New Member

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    I mean, there is a workaround like with using multiple instances of Maschine in the host. But yeah, it is just silly, Ni are trying to copy Avid really bad lmao
     
  7. Jul_

    Jul_ NI Product Owner

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    Also really need more inputs and better naming of them! With my Mk3 the workflow is so much fun compared to all the more complex DAWs but running out of inputs is annoying.
     
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  8. Iostream

    Iostream NI Product Owner

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    More inputs would be a huge improvement. As someone who runs more external synths than is currently supported, it means that I would be able to truly use maschine for hardware based projects. The current DAW integration is generally enough of a PITA that if I am using much hardware, I just leave maschine out of the picture and use cubase with other drum samples.
     
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  9. TVbene

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    BTW I just found a workaround for this problem:
    https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/found-a-way-around-the-8-inputs-limit.377247/
     
  10. Bad One

    Bad One NI Product Owner

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    Yes, with more inputs I could drive all my instruments and vocals for effects processing and mixing into Maschine. I imagine it must be pretty difficult to implement since users have been asking this for more than 7 years on this thread.
     
  11. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Maybe this was sarcasm, but I don't think it's necessarily difficult to implement (or any more so than the average enhancement), it's just that it's not a priority.
     
  12. base615

    base615 New Member

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    It is, frankly, a joke that this isn't implemented by now. Can't have a suitable number of inputs in standalone mode vs. being unable to use Maschine for MIDI out to hardware synths when used as a plugin. Can't win.
     
  13. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    I agree that being limited to 4 stereo / 8 mono inputs is a bit of a joke for a supposedly professional piece of kit (especially as the original v1.0/Mk1 set of features claimed 16 stereo in and out), but this part is false (you just have to either route the MIDI out if the plugin through the host or use a plugin in MASCHINE that can access the MIDI ports directly e.g., MIDI Out by InsertPizHere, ctrlr).
     
  14. base615

    base615 New Member

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    Through the host doesn't work, at least for Ableton (everything gets mashed into a single channel) or Logic (No MIDI out in AU plugins). I will check those plugins though, thanks for the heads up. I do suspect it will have the same DAW limitations but we'll see.
     
  15. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Yes, this is very annoying (but an Ableton issue, not a MASCHINE one).

    For the plugin methods? No, they just allow you to route MIDI to any MIDI port on your system directly, no host (of MASCHINE) involved.
     
  16. base615

    base615 New Member

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    Agreed. Never said it was, just that it doesn't work.

    Trying to get CTRLR working. Logic rejects it immediately and it doesn't show up within Maschine. Reading the doco now and not exactly easy to understand. I feel a bit dumb having not really got my head around what it even does yet but I'll see how I go.

    I still maintain they should just allow you to use however many channels are on your interface within Maschine. Crazy to limit software like this.

    Cheers.
     
  17. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    Absolutely. But this is entirely separate from the MIDI issues (that would be better discussed in a different thread).
     
  18. base615

    base615 New Member

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    Fair enough. CTRLR looks like a non-starter anyway as it's actually not even allowing Maschine to open now due to 'Malware'.
     
  19. pdxpch

    pdxpch New Member

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    Just piling on to the request for more Inputs. And dedicated Send/Return features (I know how to use the Aux, but I'd like the FX sends to be printed automatically).
     
  20. zeoka

    zeoka NI Product Owner

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    More audio inputs please !