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Mp3 import

Dieses Thema im Forum "Feature Request Archive" wurde erstellt von blezz, 23. Juli 2012.

  1. blezz

    blezz NI Product Owner

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    It just makes me sad in the eye to convert mp3 files to wav.
     
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  2. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    i had a gripe with this previously now i dont care i have a work around, i load **** up in tracktor and sample into machine via its external inputs.

    the plus side of this is traktors waveforms is dope for finding breaks and u have the pitch control so its like back in the days using turntables
     
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  3. Zero B

    Zero B NI Product Owner

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    And export.
     
  4. blezz

    blezz NI Product Owner

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    Yeah you could do that if you can afford a sound card and traktor, or not if you're in the situation where you just wanna throw in a mp3 file, or you dont have an external soundcard, or your soundcard doesnt allow you to record the stereo outs. For example you're doing a remix and you wanna throw in an acapella or the whole original song in there i'd prefer not sampling for 4 minutes.
     
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  5. MilkyCrates

    MilkyCrates New Member

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    I've never heard of any audio app being able to edit and work with mp3s, when you "import" an mp3 it usually renders it to a wav or aif file. Even when you open an mp3 file in Audacity or Sound Studio or Sound Forge its opened a decompressed version of the mp3.

    I personally don't see the point of working with an mp3 file, the only advantage they have is making an audio file portable. You would be taxing your CPU doing real time decompression every time you scrubbed through the file.
     
  6. lethal_pizzle

    lethal_pizzle NI Product Owner

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  7. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    peeps work with mp3 cos its convenient like if u got loads of old soul albums in mp3 format the idea is that u can quickly load em up and get chopping.

    without the additional step of having to convert all the files u wish to use in maschine.


    ni said something about loading mp3 impacted maschine performance , i did not really understand but it seemed nonsensical when u consider any $20 program is able to load mp3 in with no issues then u got apps like abelton that can handle any audio u throw at it and ud assume in 2012 it should be no problem.


    but neva mind there are workarounds as described
     
  8. MilkyCrates

    MilkyCrates New Member

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    i get that.

    but an mp3 is compressed audio, meaning the DSP would have to decode the file(s) upon play back in every instance, so those 16-32 chops you're trying to sequence all need to be decoded in real time to playback, add some plugins on top, and some other functions of the DSP, and it sounds like you may have some bottle necking happening right quick.

    sure computers got nufffff power now.. I just don't see the point.

    in a day and age where a terabyte hard drive costs **** all, 24bit audio interfaces are practically the norm. the only people wanting to use mp3s are e-diggers and new jacks.

    zeeeeeen.
     
  9. jpeg

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    like i said abelton is able to achieve this easy as 1 2 3 so its possible, alot of peep have recordfs downloaded in mp3 format so there is a need for it but ive been getting by without it but the fact someone else is asking for it demonstrates the nedd, not everyone is over bothered about having the highest quality audio.


    i dont hear any worth wgile difference between 16 bit and 24 bit audio, and i feel my samples in mp3 are good enuff to make me not bother with wav files
     
  10. MilkyCrates

    MilkyCrates New Member

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  11. loscolorados

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  12. blezz

    blezz NI Product Owner

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    The maschine doesnt scrub through files it just triggers the sounds right? I don't think it would be that processor heavy. I can think of a bunch of situations you'd wanna load a mp3, but mainly like i said for remix references. It has nothing near to do with how experienced you are, all audio software has mp3 support in this "day and age". I still buy records and sample damn near everything from them since 13 years back. And i still want mp3 support! So do other people, why bother vouching for not having something you dont have interest in.
     
  13. lethal_pizzle

    lethal_pizzle NI Product Owner

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    I would imagine that if it were to be implemented, that Maschine would convert lossy audio to uncompressed audio upon import, meaning there would only be a CPU hit for the duration of the conversion process.
     
  14. DigitalDave

    DigitalDave New Member

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    import and export +1
     
  15. Mr36

    Mr36 NI Product Owner

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    (There have been many requests and threads for this, I just chose one that was still open.)

    Almost all if not all patents for mp3 decoding and encoding have now expired and the "licensing program for certain MP3 related patents and software of Technicolor and Fraunhofer IIS has been terminated."


    (http://www.npr.org/sections/thereco...-is-officially-dead-according-to-its-creators)


    Does this mean what I think it means and that at least payment and licensing is no longer an obstacle for NI to add mp3 import/export?
     
  16. Dasweetdude

    Dasweetdude NI Product Owner

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    Good post to bring up will be keeping an eye on it in the future. But for production would choose wav and NI's samples are good.But just being to add abit more spice and creativity even If it comes from a mp3 to anyone's workflow and that helps them improve their project l feel its worth it.:)
     
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