MPC X

The way the MPC Software does it...

Just say you have a 4-bar pattern that you want to resample. You double click the 'Export Audio' icon. A perfect 4-bar sample (4-bar pattern resampled) appears in your sample pool that you can assign to a Pad or Clip. No need to trim the end.

 

That's just exporting/importing as opposed to resampling, but can you do that export audio function from the controller? And is there the option to play while it's recording/resampling?

512 sounds as in 512 samples? If so, does this mean being able to distribute those 512 samples across the 128 levels of velocity and/or pitch?

 

You tap the touch screen 2x to get to a controller mode prompt. A third tap puts you into controller mode.

When you later shutdown the MPC, it launches in controller mode. It takes 3x taps on the touch screen to place it in standalone mode

Resampling a pattern and exporting a pattern is the same end result.

You can also just click the 'export' icon once and then drag that icon directly to a pad. Perfect 4-bar sample. You can't do this while the Sequencer is running.

But there is another option. You use the Looper's Sequence Sync function which appears to be what you are looking for. You set the number of bars, turn on sync, and the Looper will resample in realtime. Click the export button which will assign the sample to a pad without stopping the Sequencer.

The 512 samples mean exactly that. You have up to 512 samples to use as velocity layers. The MPCs Keygroups is not the go to sampler for a multi gigabyte piano. It is nowhere near Kontakt. Very few, if any, MPC users ask for this type of functionality. Create a poll...perhaps if you get others to co-sign they will make it happen.

 

How do you suggest going from standalone to controller mode better?

 

You should be sorry that you don't understand batteries can be replaced.

Producers that make a living off of music use standalone, far less capable drum machines created 30 years ago. They are not using them for nostalgia. This makes absolutely no sense to imply that.

 

Now that right there tell you alot.. freat produxt but you gonna spend more then 2200..

 

Nothing to do with batteries. More to do with technology in 2047 and how digital devices from 2017 will either be superseded or just flat-out obsolete by then.
If not for nostalgia, instruments being used from 30 (or more) years ago are generally only still used due to their character or specific esoteric features, which doesn't apply here.

Thanks for the clarification on the resampling (which is distinct from exporting/importing audio, but is achieved via the looper) and about the keygroups.

 

i thought that if i had a beat in stand alone and i open the mpc software to a blank project; when i connect and switch to controller mode the beat on stand alone should auto sync and open on the pc.

also if im working in controller mode and switch to standalone the project on the computer should then sync and be open in the hardware in standalone.

but do u think they can add the ability to stream samples directly from sd/usb/hard drive in a future update?

 

Is it just me, or does anybody else find it kind of funny that they didn't have a computer there running the 2.0 software? I mean, they keep claiming how seamless the integration between the hardware and the 2.0 software is, and how the MPC X can switch up and be a controller. Why not show that? 2.0 software was announced at NAMM 2016. It's been a year. Why not showcase the new software on a computer along side the new standalones?????? These units are supposed to ship in a couple of months. Something is not right. There wasn't a computer in site at their booth.

 

Please don't get offended because I am about to write something real here.

In 2047 we will still be driving cars on the road and not flying them. Likewise, the 1/4" and XLR standard for connectivity will still be the standard. Any notion that musical devices will become obsolete in 30 years is a ridiculous premise as is suggesting those who continue to use said instruments are doing so only for nostalgia. Please don't repeat that outside of this thread.

As far as resampling in an MPC, whether you use drag n drop, export, the sampler or the looper...the result is the same. There is no characteristic added to the resulting file that will differentiate which method you used outside of how the MPC names it. If you quickly want to resample a sequence in the MPC keeping its fixed length, drag n drop or export to sample pool is the fastest way in most cases.

 

Disk streaming could be added in a future update. As you pointed out, there are existing products that can accomplish this.

As far as project loading when switching between standalone and controller modes...great idea. Are there any products on the market that does this?

 

The 2.0 software is still being developed and tested. Apparently, they will show it when it is ready.

The MPC hardware was only shown to the press, dealers, and invited guests. They were not out on the floor like other products.

 

So native gonna clap back at the mpc x or nah?.. I would buy what ever stand alone drum MASCHINE native put in front of me! Gimme the mashine studio with a full size single panel, same I/O, HD options as akai, except native hardware, maschine os, vst support, native library support?? Game over. Where they at doe..

 

It's like you have some kind of "selective understanding" going on... Thanks for your irrelevant insights into the future, but it seems you have missed/ignored/avoided the actual point again. Never mind. Let's leave it at that and move on.

I think it's more about the techniques of resampling and rendering/exporting being different. Yes, you can achieve a direct recording of a Pattern with either, but rendering/exporting requires you to record/program everything to be heard in the resulting audio beforehand, while resampling allows changing/tweaking/whatever during the recording, as it's sampling the playback. At least, this is a distinction that is often used, but some like yourself also use "resampling" to mean either. But it seems you can do either with the MPCs, which is all I was asking about.

 

and yet last year they were showing a mock-up of mpc 2.0 at namm 2016; they had a laptop out and none of the features worked; so whats the big secret now? cos the software was still being developed back then?

good to hear about the possibility of streaming cos it seemed to work perfectly in the case of the sp505 and 303.

as far as the controller mode; thats just how I would logically expect it to work; u could have options for auto sync between the hardware and software, or have it prompt the user before syncing.

alternatively u could make the hardware the master so that automatically whenever the hardware connects; then the project on the hardware auto opens on the software, or vice versa u can choose the software as the master.

 

It's been a year. I mean, damn, it's been a year, and it's still so unstable that they can't even show a beta version. They demonstrated 2.0 at NAMM 2016:



After a year, they couldn't show any improvement? Or, is it simply the fact that they haven't been focusing on the computer software at all, and rather focusing on the standalones? Actions speak louder than words. What people say isn't always what they do. They say 2.0 is being worked on, but at NAMM all they showed was the standalones.

Why wasn't Dan Gil there anyway? Maybe it's because he didn't have anything to demonstrate?!?!?!???

 

Aside from some features (e.g., plugin support) and some limitations (e.g., only 8 audio tracks), the software running on the standalones is MPC 2.0.

I appreciate the GUI and the actually working/operation of it won't be the same on Windows/OS X, but I'd guess that the controller workflow will be the same.

And a lot could have changed with what/how they were developing a year ago. Or they just didn't want to show the software side of it and focus on the hardware at the moment. Whether they show it now or the day before release, the only thing that matters is what it's like when it is released. Previews don't always give the best impressions.

 

Seeing is believing.

 

is it?

 

Well, NAMM was nothing but smoke and mirrors. It was all illusion and misdirection.