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Discussion in 'General Production Forum' started by certifiedbeatz, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    I test MPC software in my spare time for you (the MPC / beat making community). I am not currently interested in working in the corporate world.
     
  2. arche3

    arche3 NI Product Owner

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    Not really. I'll mess with it when I get it. Thanks.

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  3. jpeg

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    Thanks for sharing some info and insight's on this forum; I suppose we have you to thank for feeding back maschine feature requests to akai for them to implement. (all is fair)

    which is fair enuff in my book cos if NI are gonna sit on requests and take two years off from development its only right that the requests go to someone who is willing to act on them; and this case it was akai.
     
  4. Droe33

    Droe33 NI Product Owner

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    I love Maschine, but if Akai pulls this off I'm gonna have to pick up a MPCX or MPC Live. Im not a fan of the touch screen to be honest, and the fact there is a touch screen somehow makes me wonder if a lot of it is running off a glorified tablet, but i will be checking it out. I couldn't see this machine lasting as long as a mpc 60 or 3000, and Aka'is software has me slightly worried since Maschine is on top of there software and integration game, but it is definitely very nice to have a hardware device. I hear people talking about how the next step for NI is to create a standalone Maschine. When all in all the idea would be dope, especially if vst's were in the box, but i don't honestly see this happening. The Traktor Z2 I would say is the closest thing to hardware they got, and it is a great mixer for its price. Ive owned one, upgraded to another mixer and already miss it at times, haha. But that is what they have for real hardware and the filter is dope, it sounds great does it thing but has no onboard effects. So that just makes me think that there just more about the midi game. Which is totally fine because they are doing great in it. I personally like to make both sample based stuff and make stuff from scratch. so for me I would like a MPCX to see if they did pull it off, and if they did fix the simple things like when you nudge a sample over you couldn't physically see it, even in JJOS. If i remember correctly it would take 3 nudges to make a a visible nudge. Thats annoying because ya gotta re listen over and over when i can just nudge and move on.So they have more effects, and the software integration so i can export mad easy into my DAW of choice which is Ableton for now. thats all i really need. I was happy with JJOS and my 2500 years ago, but i got deeper into glitch hop, juke and all that electronic stuff for awhile myself before and do new things. Now i just wanna smack out beats/breaks for turntablism. So yeah the new MPC's have caught my interest. I just hope that they don't die in 5 or so years like new age computers and is more true to its previous hardware components, and if the Beat/project gets big(even thought i know theres only 8 tracks) i just hope it doesnt create some kinda latency or anything. If it has all the previous stuff from the 2500 and does all the things I've stated, like doesn't crash, then I'm in. I loved my 1000 and the 2500. Ill be keeping a Maschine around though.
     
  5. kb420

    kb420 NI Product Owner

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    Hey JAHROME, I don't always agree with everything that you say, but I will admit this, you do a very thorough job of pointing out the shortcomings of various products. If you are beta testing the new MPC Live/X, I know that you are being very meticulous, going through all of the functions with a fine tooth comb. I actually saw a youtube video where there were others commenting on what a good job you were doing with the beta testing. You may not be interested in the corporate world, but know your worth bruh. You should receive some type of compensation. The least they could do is let you keep the Live you have and give you a X for free, but in my opinion, they should hand you a check as a technical consultant. You're not beta testing for me or the beat making community. You're beta testing for Akai Professional. They are the ones who are going to reap the financial benefits of all of your work.

    Just my $.02.
     
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  6. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Between college courses and a newborn, I test the MPC Live in my spare time. I do it because I have used MPCs for decades, it is fun, get to see my own feature requests added as well as feature requests submitted by users. I am more concerned with Creatives getting the tools they need as opposed to a companies bottom line. This is why I have engaged users about feature requests in multiple forums over the years.

    Trust that I would rather talk about how to use these products as opposed to taking personal shots at people. But a lot of the stuff you hear online is BS..as forum members have no idea what goes on behind the scenes nor do they understand the technology being used. A lot of stuff is easier said than done. This is why I merely point out limitations of products I use and don't take shots at the developers because I have seen first hard it is to produce these products...especially with thousands of users wanting different things.

    If there were paid beta testing positions at Akai or NI, in my area and I could choose my working hours...I would be happy to accept a check. Until then..I test whatever I am sent.
     
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  7. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    I am with you. I would have been perfectly happy if the new MPCs didn't have touch screens but larger colored displays with graphics that inspire me.

    The only thing I really like about the touch screens is that I can tap a field to select it and use the data dial to adjust values. This is easier than using MPC cursor buttons in many cases.
     
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  8. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Jut received feedback. Highly unlikely.
     
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  9. egjanuary

    egjanuary NI Product Owner

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    I want standalone. I want it more then any other feature discussed in this forum. The main reason I haven't been throwing any money at NI is lack of standalone. I don't want to drag a computer (and a audio interface) with me everywhere I want to make a beat, sketch up a song, jam with some friends, or kill some time outside of my music workshop. I want to show up, plug into an amp or PA and have music come out. With the MPC Live if you want to get heavy into it, hook it up to the computer. It's the best of both worlds. Sure it will have some limitations, everything does. As long as it can make a beat, do some MIDI, sample, export audio. That's good for me.
    AFAIC the price is fair, assuming it functions as advertised. A decent guitar, synth, drum kit, or any other instrument of any quality (except a kazoo) is going to be around $1000-$1500.
    I want one, it has the features I'm interested in.
     
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  10. theinvis

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    Jah could you possibly follow up with them and let them know that there could very well be a great concern over this as I'm sure the majority of folks are probably assuming that disk streaming is possible now or at least in the future because it's such a standard. I have already ordered the live version but I was going to order the mpc-x as well until that feedback you just provided, I will definitely have to hold off until they provide us with a reasonable answer as to why as opposed to just highly unlikely.... anybody serious about music production would be interested in why this would be unlikely.

    as a side note, I'd like to add that while I appreciate the videos Saint Joe posted for us I was highly concerned with the lackadaisical response to the list of factual data that should have been available at Namm, with nobody on the technical side even there to provide it. I was willing to buy the mpc-live without having even tried it out first and this is the first product I've ever done that with so the last thing I want Akai to do is squander the goodwill like mine that they've garnered with the direction of their current line of development. In other words we need to know why something so beneficial and standard as disk streaming will not be implemented
     
  11. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    I edited my response. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean to include disk streaming. My response was regarding whether projects created in standalone would autoload when you switched to controller mode.
     
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  12. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    whew :)
    thanks
     
  13. Mystic38

    Mystic38 NI Product Owner

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    @JAHROME

    a two parter..

    I am not familiar with the Qlink setup on MPC (never have had one) but it seems that they can be setup to control things independent of what track/channel/item is in focus on the screen?.. if so this is pretty neat.

    also, I have asked before about the MPC software and the (knob) control of CC for external gear, (which you replied it doesnt) , but i was wondering if this was a feature added in 2.0?

    thx

    EDIT:

    I just saw this on MPC-Forums.. http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=181823

    "this version 2.0 of the software sees the MPC control convenience also extend to external instruments through an optimized mapping of Q-Link knobs, now fully editable, configurable and assignable to the management of any parameter of any internal or external instrument connected to the MPC based workstation."

    which infers to me that knob control of CC at a minimum of external gear is possible.. and if so, am totally sold...:D
     
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  14. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    I'd be remiss if I didn't ask how fast does it charge a dead battery to full charge?
     
  15. crushkd001

    crushkd001 NI Product Owner

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    @JAHROME Quick question....Do the MPC 2.0 Software come with the MPC Live and MPC X so you can use them as controllers or do you have to (can you) purchase separately?
     
  16. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    Darn that's a missed opportunity imo. Just from a usability point of view. If they had a bounce down stems and move and open in MPC Live and vice/versa button it would be a game changer imo. I don't mind the manual work but people here complain when they have to route audio in Maschine, you know they are going to complain about this.
     
  17. Mystic38

    Mystic38 NI Product Owner

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    it states on the web it comes with it.. also the studio black and mpc touch..

     
  18. Goon

    Goon NI Product Owner

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    According to one of the many Andy Mac videos, its about 45minutes to charge up.
     
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  19. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    thanks, if that's true thats not as bad as I thought, so you can definitely take a break in a power cable-less session to charge up and keep going while you're chopping it up a bit.
     
  20. theinvis

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    for all of the worries I've read about the 2.0 software including my own concerns, in demos like these it seems quite snappy and Andy never looks like he's afraid to do something, I'm feeling very encouraged.