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Discussion in 'General Production Forum' started by certifiedbeatz, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    That's why I mentioned that I thought I saw a Guitar Amp effect somewhere in there. I have amps already that's not the issue. It's more about portability for me. I basically was looking for a portable recorder with some beat making capabilities as well. Akai missed the boat and that and I just went ahead and cancelled my pre-orde. That beta video was very misleading imo.
     
  2. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    If Akai put every thing I want into the MPC Live, it would be bigger. I want an adjustable screen.
     
  3. Jay Wizard

    Jay Wizard NI Product Owner

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    Yeah. No doubt. I'm still planning to buy one and make it work.

    My comment was from a business perspective rather than a personal one. They keep saying in their promo videos that they want these units to be used by loads of different kinds of musicians not just beatmakers, but by omitting a few relatively cheap components they cut off a big market. I personally would love for Akai to have huge success with these so they keep developing them. I think eating into the markets from some of the other segments might help them achieve that success. Anyway, just my personal view, so if others disagree it's cool.
     
  4. Jay Wizard

    Jay Wizard NI Product Owner

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    Important to note that nobody *officially* knows what is in them and what they can and can't do at this point. Perhaps waiting and seeing is a good idea.

    Jerome,

    Are you certain that the beta model you have is the final production model, or is there a possibility that their will be differences in the software/hardware from what you have? I'm guessing their is very little likelihood of hardware differences, but perhaps software differences. Maybe they will put an amp sim in the unit...
     
  5. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    I know Masada. You can do exactly what he did in the video with some caveats. It wasn't parlor tricks. He wasn't teaching audio engineering 101 and discussing impedance matching. It depends on the microphone whether you can record it into the Live.
     
  6. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    It doesn't need everything just proper inputs. A combo jack doesn't take up that much space imo nor does a foot pedal port.

    I would have sacrificed one of the outputs for combo jack or something. Maybe with the Live 2.0 or whatever.



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  7. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    My beta unit matches the 'correct' spec that is on the website. Software updates are continuous during testing. What is in the MPC at the moment can/will be changed.

    Chances are...once you get your MPC and install the software...you will get a prompt to update to the latest software/firmware.
     
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  8. masada2502

    masada2502 New Member

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    Whats up everyone . The videos I made are real. Everything you saw in them is what happened .All I did was plug in the Bass,guitar ,mic or what have you straight into the Mpc Live ...Cheap Shure/radio shack mic .(I like the cheap mic for character when detail isn't important ) the lives input gain goes up pretty high and the A to D Convertors are really quiet.(which was suprising) I have no reason to fabricate anything.(Im Not an employee of akai) My only intention was to give information about how Ive been using the product.I made the videos from my view point of what I believed users would want to see.How the common / uncommon person would use the Mpc Live...No magic tricks ,No games ...Just information .peace & respect .
     
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  9. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    there are two rules to fight club......

    1. don't F with the sequencer!!!
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    2. don't F with the sequencer!!!


    I see akai is F-ing too much with the Sequencer for no good reason. I already have a maschine
    I don't need another beatmachine without a proper sequencer. you might call it legacy issues but
    I call it sequencing issues. I do not call the concept of time signatures a legacy issue. Your work around
    is the only thing that stopped me from cancelling my order. Dan Gil better come out of hiding and trust me when I say I hope you didn't have to pay for your mpc because they damn sure owe you a free one!
     
  10. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Absolutely nothing has been done to change the sequencer. It sequences the same way as the MPC Ren/Studio.
     
  11. Jay Wizard

    Jay Wizard NI Product Owner

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    I really liked your video and appreciate the direction you are pushing the hardware. This is how I want to use it too, so hopefully the software will continue to be optimized for this kind of production. The hardware limitations noted are fairly easily/cheaply remedied IMHO.

    One question, for the guitar recording, your signal looked to be fairly strong based on the waveforms. Is there are pretty wide gain range on the inputs that allowed for you to get this kind of signal or do you normalize the audio tracks after you recorded?

    Thanks!
     
  12. masada2502

    masada2502 New Member

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    i just turned the gain knob up....thats it .
     
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  13. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    I'm not talking about the sequencers on the Ren/studio but anyways like I said, the work around will hold as long as it holds...
    The curious fact that you can't do things like note mapping, time signature etc... but that you can load up templates that utilize these features is very strange within itself, but it lends me hope that since they allow these functions to essentially work that they will go on and make them accessible directly without the need for using my other mpcs as a template builder...
     
  14. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    We haven't had these features in a new MPC since 2008. It is what it is. The only thing I can do is note what is missing....over several dozen legacy features are not in the new software-based MPCs.

    ......while I gripe about some of my favorite features are missing...still able to use them creatively. I don't miss those features enough to go back to a legacy MPC (still have my 4000 in storage).
     
  15. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    well you might need to pull it out to make a template:D

    I've calmed down now, had some Golden Grahams and everything is ok, that sequencer and audio input news sent me to that dark place where beatmachine shenanigans live and prey on the souls of the innocent... it's taken almost a decade to escape that shadow world....brrr brrrrr
     
  16. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Clarification. The templates I spoke about earlier (e.g. time signature changes), you can use the MPC Software to create..
     
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  17. certifiedbeatz

    certifiedbeatz NI Product Owner

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    Took awhile to connect the dots ..my old days at mpcforum.. now i know who u r...lol i put my 2500 up forsale i hope it doesnt sell if it does i still habe my 2000 and 3000... i did see jj post a new update coming soon....anyway what missing now is irrelevant compared to what we dont have with maschine which i been lobbing for awhile we have in X when released.. im not really worried about the software. As you stated we can use with our daws im happy about
     
  18. Jay Wizard

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    I would love if Akai released a midi footswitch that would allow real time looping like you could do with regular guitar looper like a Ditto or Boss looper. Combined with all the other functions on the unit it would make for an amazing performance device / practice tool.

    As long as I'm dreaming, I would love for them to add impulse response hosting like you can do on the Two Notes Torpedo Cab. That would not only be killer for guitar/bass but also be super dope for loading in various room reverbs to simulate various spaces. The specs are definitely enough to do it, it's just a matter of them tweaking the software to allow IRs to be loaded.
     
  19. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Some of the other things I want to see is an advancement of the sampler and program editing.

    Would love granular synthesis, warp markers and any tool that can be used for sound design aka freaking my samples.

    The amp envelopes in MPCs are not that great. Maschine and Battery 4 sh!ts on an MPC in this regard. When I really want / need to shape the sound of my samples, I import them into Battery 4. Still a little irritated that NI changed the amp envelope overlays on waveforms. Huge mistake changing this Battery 3 feature.
     
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  20. theinvis

    theinvis NI Product Owner

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    thank you.