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Multi Monitor Support! Decks in one monitor with browser in the other!

Dieses Thema im Forum "Feature Suggestions" wurde erstellt von Patrick Bateman, 22. Februar 2009.

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  1. J.R.

    J.R. NI Product Owner

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    I don't get this request. traktor is a dj software, who has two monitors at the dj booth? But maybe you just work a lot different than most people I know. So all I have to say is: think about if this is a "toy at home" feature or a serious needed one.
     
  2. 7problems

    7problems New Member

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    Eh, have you tried using traktor as bit of live producing kit? It's pretty good put in some loopstations, keyboards...etc

    Even just DJing with four decks.

    Problem is, when you start to do this your stuck if you don't have a big enough screen. most laptops screens are too small to see four decks c/w everything (fx's, loops, cues...etc), so you need to buy another screen. So, it would be perfect if you could seperate the program up a bit over a multiple screens
     
  3. sqgl

    sqgl Forum Member

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    A workaround is to make our virtual desktop/screen bigger than our physical one. This is possible sometimes just selecting a larger resolution. My current laptop is already at maximum resolution offered but you may be more lucky than me. Does anyone know of 3rd party software that would allow me to do this too please? (since NI seems to be ignoring the issue)
     
  4. trriss

    trriss New Member

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    I think you can create larger "virtual" resolutions then your current maximum physical resolutions with the software "powerstrip". The nvidia control panel also seems to have some rudimentary support for that...

    Maybe another option is to create a large virtual resolution that spans the two screens? The problem there is that the edges of the screens might get in the way...

    Imho, we shouldn't have to bother with all these tricks anyway... If so many other programs can do it, why can't traktor have good window management...
     
  5. sqgl

    sqgl Forum Member

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    Thanks ttriss.
     
  6. troyhark

    troyhark Forum Member

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    +1 for me

    Even if one is using a laptop when DJIng out, you can use dual/triple monitors at home to prepare your work. I've used dual screen for many years and it is a big productivity boost, particularly when programmes are designed well for it.
    Besides you can even by buy laptops with dual screens. :p

    Kohjinsha DZ Dual Screen Laptop and this is a small laptop!

    GScreen Laptops will go up to 17"!
     
  7. phil909

    phil909 Forum Member

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    i don't get it either.
    two monitors in an already cramped dj booth? get real.
    someone mentioned earlier in the thread that they'd like to integrate 3 monitors - that made me laugh out loud.
    i've never heard anything so ridiculous...
     
  8. troyhark

    troyhark Forum Member

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    Er try reading post above yours.
     
  9. phil909

    phil909 Forum Member

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    Thanks smartarse, I had read the post but still don't get it.
    2 monitors is great in logic etc, when you're producing music etc but why do you need three to add a few mp3's to a DJ application?

    It's not like you can zoom in to the waveform better and set more accurate beatgrids.
    Setting these bang on the transients is as hit & miss on a 24inch iMac as it is on a 13inch iBook.

    So tell me, how would 3 monitors improve your traktor experience?
    It just sounds like total overkill and a bit pompous.

    I've used plenty of programs that I thought would benefit a 2nd monitor, it's just traktor isn't one of them.
     
  10. Slope Theory

    Slope Theory New Member

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    Get real? I've spent the whole of my 15 year DJ career using four turntables and two mixers plus the odd CD player or groovebox so please don't try and tell me about cramped DJ booth issues. There is always a solution.
     
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  11. troyhark

    troyhark Forum Member

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    Read it more slowly maybe?:p
    Besides just because you cannot see a need, it doesn't mean there is one. We all work differently and if only things everyone wanted were included most programmes would have almost no features.

    I can think of one reason off top of my head for three monitors. Decks in one monitor, browser in another and if you use Itunes or Ableton Live as well that can go in the third.
    Anything that eases workflow and reduces chance of mistakes being made is a good thing.
    For example, if you want Browser a decent size, it hides everything else, never a good thing. Imagine if every time you looked in your CD folder or record box and all your equipment vanished. You subconsciously note where the needle is on record or how much time is left on CD deck and use that info to keep tabs as well as simply listening. You may be busy looking for a track and get engrossed and not notice the Traktor 'track ending soon' warning flashing. Which I know is something you should listen for, but if also distrracted by an annoying punter as well.....


    I've used Dual monitors for years and the added real estate and change in usability with programmes thant can use both can make very big improvements to workflow. And in the future with more complex DJing the more screens the merrier.
     
  12. DJEccentric

    DJEccentric Forum Member

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    +1

    Ok, party pooper... well thanks for the heads up on the pre threads...
    NI, Can we start w/ letting us at least brows our tracks on a different screen and then move on from there? "please, please, hell, yeah, etc."

    All the "luxury" items sound great and would be a blessing but the tracks would be a great and much needed good start...
     
  13. sqgl

    sqgl Forum Member

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    In the meantime why not just organise your tracks using explorer or some mp3 specialist explorer-type of app? TSP does let you drag and drop from external browsers.

    I think making the controller programming window bigger/resizable is a much bigger issue (and easier to implement).
     
  14. koopa

    koopa NI Product Owner

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    Word! You can still use Windows Explorer, iTunes, MediaMonkey, Winamp, .... on a second screen to organize and select your music.

    It's my opinion that bugs should be fixed, before special cases like the support for two monitors added.
     
  15. troyhark

    troyhark Forum Member

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    Bugs should take priority over any new feature and I'd argue that dual monitor support should be the norm for any suitable programme. And is certainly not a special case request.

    I'd also like to reduce the number of programmes open if I'm actually DJing, to reduce potential problems/conflicts/memory usage....
    Not to mention Windows Explorer + Finder are File Browsers, not Database applications like Traktor appears to be, so they are no where near as good or fast at looking through large numbers of files. iTunes is a DB, but is an awful bloated resource hog, so would rather not use it at all.
     
  16. 7problems

    7problems New Member

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    A new program release should have more than just fixed bugs!

    How is this argument still going? Spreading Traktor across multiple screens will benefit lots and for those who don't think they'll use it, don't.
     
  17. Steve Zorilow

    Steve Zorilow NI Product Owner

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    If NI would be willing to produce something like an API/DLL/SDK, as backdoor access, I wouldn't mind to create a third party software for this. But I doubt they will...

    I would love having multi-monitor support myself too, and ability to use higher screen resolution (as many mode doesn't seems to work for me here on 24" screen)

    Only a floating windows for the file browser would be enough for me. 4 deck on 1 side, browser on the other.... good start point.
     
  18. troyhark

    troyhark Forum Member

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    I agree, but fixing the bugs that are present should still be done first and issued as point releases. I'm getting increasingly fed up with new software with fancy new features and bugs that have still not been fixed and with some new ones added to the mix. Functioning properly and reliably comes way before more features.

    I've never understood why people object to something they won't use. It's a very arrogant/selfish atitude in my view and if only features that no-one objected to were implemented, nothing would ever change.
     
  19. sqgl

    sqgl Forum Member

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    I take that back. An old problem (see thread) has resurfaced: Traktor will play at about 4x speed sometimes inexplicably but often precisely in response to dragging and dropping as described above. All these workarounds and trapdoors... seems the feature list is getting more and more impressive but the stability is getting worse and worse.
     
  20. 7problems

    7problems New Member

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    Definitely.
    If you buy a car (lets say a Toyota) and the one of the pedals malfunctions (lets say the accelerator) you would expect it to be fixed; you would not expect to just make do and wait to buy the next model only to find they had not fixed the pedal problem but put a satellite dish on the roof.
     
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