Native Instruments have been really quite lately

What, right now, can anyone jump to? NI are not in competition with anyone at the moment (I don't count Spark).... If NI haven't come up with a response when the ren is about to drop, I will agree with you.... That's 3-4 months down the line. Until then.... I'm holding on to maschine and seeing how the ren actually does when people I respect start using it. Meanwhile NI are busy getting their ish together on a huge maschine update, which they're keeping under wraps until they have a finalised list of things to promise us. It's bad business to promise and fail (like Ableton with share), so they don't tell. If their silence annoys you enough, speak with your money and sell maschine, it doesn't bother me THAT much, and I think there are thousands of others with a more realistic approach to this game than you seem to have.
Or rather, a different viewpoint of what's going on right now.

 

LOL wtf? do you even know what this thread is about?
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and mate you are forgetting that a response around the time ren drops is going to do nothing... the ren will be released and ppl will be onto it like hot butter... u have to realise more ppl use mpcs mpds than they use maschine ok.... and they will go right onto the mpc ren or just keep their mpcs/mpds ( just use a mpd with ableton, you got everything right there...) its simple...

 

I was responding to schrage implying that Traktor was getting all the Love. NI has made very clear that they want integration across their product line. That does not mean that each product can't do what it does best... I'm quite confused by this reply, because you seem to be inferring things from my response to schrage that I wasn't alluding to at all. Basically dj's are getting a greater ability to chop their songs up and remix them on the fly, from technology sourced from improvements to maschine... That's all.
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Chockpeth, back up. This thread is about why NI have been quiet. The ren doesn't exist yet.. And until it does NI is on its own in my opinion.

 

the ren does exist... thats where you are wrong... so the namm videos are just for fun hey? a big LOL over the industry?

come on stop being stupid here... im not fan boy i hate akai but ill tell u where im going im going ren if they dont have these features DOWNLOADABLE for free by the time ren drops... ive even paid a deposit on ren... and as of end of july very start of august i will have one... and then we will compare ok!
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because by the looks of things, the issues raised with maschine 3 years ago, yes 3 years ago are suddenly going to be written and available to get from service centre within 2 months... yes yes son! yes yes

 

So, may be these "little news", which won't be positive news for the average maschine user, as far as I understand, may be that NI is concentrating on traktor, integration with Maschine, some unknown integral part, too, who knows, and therefor further Maschine updates are unlikely for some time to come, besides some 1.7.5 before the end of the year.

These are little news. Now how would this sound?

 

sound very bad to me thats for sure... i mean i use traktor im a dj, but i do not care for this stupid wishy washy 21st century nonsense...

people drop guys like ritchie hawtin using the maschine in his sets... he plays afew kits thats all he does ok... he would be on a mpd if he wasnt endorsed by NI for using traktor...

stop being suckups guys because ur affraid Keir will ban you or something like that... this is my 4th account to be banned and ill tell u what id do if i was the newly appointed maschine manager i would remove keir from here and i would remove the other ops... deleting my posts because i have strong views, banning my account because i speak from a users point of view. these guys get NI products for free... ive spend thousands on them and its the same path today as it was yesterday NOTHING!

 

You need to stop calling me stupid. When the ren is available to consumers, then it exists. Til then it's a product we may get at some point in the future. If Numark goes down tomorrow will it still be available?
You can't seem to reply to any of my responses with anything approaching courtesy or intelligence; how old are you?

 

age has nothing to do with this. dont get personal please...

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=7116

have a read of that ok....

the MPC ren is happening, i have word from my store and they have never let me down in my life... end of july start of august is up... its advertised all over the place...maybe u should read abit more... the latest article in future music and music tech focus on the debate of mpc ren as a killer to maschine,,, if they can healthy debate about it... why cannot we? but we get silenced ... lol yeh great thoughts there... just like democracy does not exist....
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now before you want to jump down my throat about the videos u may have seen on ren... the guy who does those is a fool.. i wouldnt have a guy with such little knowledge selling my product.. do u need to be led by ppl? or do u take things inside ur brain urself and act on what u know as the gut feeling is?

seems so many of you here are a slave to this system

 

Don't get personal? You're the one calling me stupid... I lived in oz for 5 years, I knew a lot of peeps like you...ignorant aggressive and loud... Knew a lot sound dudes too.

 

dreddiknight: sorry if it's become a little intemperate. I hope my response to you wasn't taken as such. And I got that you weren't calling me paranoid (who said that? they're watching, you know) but, seriously, it takes a special kind of twerp to wind me up. I enjoy a good, robust argument with potential friends (and, serously, some of my best friends have started as argument partners)

 

you are speaking from stupidity sorry but you are...

you lived in oz for 5 years wow good on you.. and what did u do in that time in aus?

 

No schrage we are cool
But yeah it's only paranoia if they're not really watching us... And I know they are

 

i am very glad you share these views schrange... i am exactly on ur train of path...

its a shame we have the mods on here to silence such healthy aggressive compassion towards your views... i take nothing to heart, but i cannot speak for the rest of u

 

You speak stupidity with pretty much every post yaren. I was a dj in oz. it paid well.

 

who cares if they are... i couldnt care a less if NI hacked my pc... they would notice the thousands of dollars of legit products i have purchased off them in 10 years... the time has come for them to tell us the truth... with 45 jobs up for sale on the company's main page... seems like these guys need a HR manager
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ahh yeh and whats ur dj name?
i am very well connected in the australian scene its a small world down here as u know....

 

I'm mr king.
Don't take me too literally about the paranoia thing... I was joking dude..

 

I wasn't saying N.I would go bankrupt but..... I mean they did piss off a lot of kore users lol.(Joking) Naw I just try to push people not to be sheep. Lupe Fiasco his album was pushed back and his fans got pissed so they signed a petition and 200k signed. Guess what they released his album. Without anyone consuming the company is useless. I like my Maschine I don't love it I love my son I wouldn't give him up for the world but this Maschine if needed to put food in my sons mouth would be sold in a heartbeat. So therefore I feel no compassion for like you say a company the size of NI or any other for that matter. It's all about keeping food on the table and that my friend is universal. I'm sick of companies trying to stretch the life of a product by inching it with updates that should already be there. I don't want to bankrupt N.I I just want the users to check them. Some people might say well they added a lot of updates in Maschine for free. I say that **** should have been there in the first place. Call me crazy but it's my opinion. I don't sell someone a beat with just the high end just so I can sell him the low end. Let's just not be sheep. Like you said NI is a very successful company do you think it would really hurt them to let us know what is going down? No. Like I said before the ads are hella tight but can we get a developers blog as well? That doesn't take as long to do as the ads and you don't run into these problems with your consumers.

 

mr king never heard of u... how typical talk urself up then dont even come out with the goods...
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yeh spot on man... id make that whole thing my sig but ill be banned when Keir and his pets wake up...

+1 just wish i could express myself in the way u did ....
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read below...

 

what's your dj name yaren? You can't even be honest about who you are. Bit cowardly to ask, and then wuss out yourself eh? And the day you express yourself well is the day after your brain transplant... Knew you'd talk yourself up, then lick someone else's ass..

 

hahahaha lick someone elses ass? im not a performing dj... i dont play out at all. but i run half the nights in sydney... tell me who u are seriously.. where have u played... i run ivy, chinese laundry, lepanic, had done nights at green square ,, yu... tank...

seriously who are u?
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and be honest who i am?

this is my 4th banned account in afew weeks and im being perfectly honest as to who i am...