Needs a follow scene function

Ok, you have 10 scenes setup with everything you need for a song.
You have a empty patten set with an instrument set on keyboard mode and you want to record a melody across the whole song, from scene to scene... it can't be done..

Not only are you stuck looking at the highlighted scene waiting for it to play but you can't even watch each patten as the scenes are playing.. This is so frustrating.

Please fix it...

 

+1 (if i understand you correctly...)

that akai drum box has a feature called "convert song to sequence", which is what would work best here. I guess the analogy here would be the ability to convert your arrangement into its own scene and in so-doing it would create a new pattern (which would be a combination of all of the patterns in that group arranged in the scene) for each group. Really Crucial. Especially for going back and getting some dope fills for transitions btw parts.

 

This is one of Maschines biggest problems

Yes I could create on the maschine and then finish off in Ableton, but the Maschine is only a few steps of being one of the best creation programs around and this I think should be a given.

It dosen't follow the scenes that are playing, so you can't see the pattens that are being played as the scenes play through. That is the biggest pain in the but. If you have recorded your scenes and you want to watch an instrument on a patten as the song plays through, it is only posable by using the arrow keys to move the highlighted clip as the song plays through.

I would have thought this would be a standard feature, like it is for all recording programs.

And how great would it be if you could do a drum or guitar solo over a number of clips but everything you played would still be within the scene it was recorded in..

 

What do you mean everything will be within the scene it was recorded in? You can record a solo and set it to one shot and it will play across your scenes until it's done...then all you have is one note in the pattern you wanted the solo to start. It can't all fit in the scene though unless the scene was long enough. EDIT: Or if the solo is made up of many midi notes, just sample internally so it becomes one sample then oneshot it...just a thought

+1 for this request though

 

since i start with maschine this is one of my top 5 wishis. a complete new scene/pattern-concept.
but sorry guys your suggestions will not work. i ve made it more "see the environment". ist a litle bit long and abstrcat so i gave them a new fred in the hope it will so get more ears.

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110089

i have a refreshed scene/pattern concept, which is fully down-compatible and should make all your wishes possibly.

its a little bit abstract and maybe you will first understand if read the whole txet and my english isnt so well. but i try to easy as possible to explain.


fisrt of all we have the old patterns as known, with the pad-marriage and their normal pattren vs. scene behaviar. but they are only "bascic-patterns".
that means they only work as "normal" as long i dont use a "alternativ" button: a special-mode. for example we could use pattern+shift (or scene AND! pattern + B1)and if we do: we see that pattern AND scene is illuminated. that gives us the optical controll, that now the beahivaior is quit different.
keep in mind, the following happens only in this special mode.

1.
in this mode the scenes run in the loop we set before and the selectetd scene is auto-focussed - the scene wich is playing is automaticaly selcted to edit.

2.
the normal "dead knobs and display behaviar" like in the other special-modes is not set this time. means: the display and knobs are still in "accses-mode" as known. also the temporär select -,mute-, and padmodfe-button with its sound-chooses/mute, play....

3.
do u remember? we have only "basic-patterns". but there is a another kind of "patterns", which will automatically created called "scene-patterns".
if we now in this special-mode make changings during the seqeuncer runs the changings were automatically written to pattern/scene wich is in focus. BUT THIS CHANGINGS are only written in the "scene-pattern" not in the "basic-pattern".
Maschine makes automaticly duplicates of the basisc-pattern wich only exixt in the scene-lane (maybe A1-01; A1-02....). the basic-pattern and of course all of their "childs" were not overwritten by this.

4.
lets play and "record"! if we in this mode all is written ONLY to the "scene-pattern" which is via auto seqeuncer-scene and group-choose in focuss. that should include all notes, all mutes, all autowrite, etc.
ideal would be if "mutes" were written as notes (for later editing- see 5.).
so u allways get what u hear without to worry about re-fokus the scene, or be in fear how it sounds with the pattern and its childs in other scenes.

AND it should also creat complet new "scene-patterns" build up from existing ones: if i switch between patterns during one scene is focus a completly new scenee-pattern is creating including the notes/autodatas from the exits as long as they were playing.
so u can make breaks on the fly which needs hours if u would do it in the old way.

5.
thsi "independend-pattern" should also work for mouse-editing: if we in this special mode and make some note-edits - they happens only to to "scene-pattern" not to the "basic-pattern".

6.
if i really like a "scene-pattern" and guess i could use it often, so there should be a "make new "basic-pattern" feature."

 

+1!

 

Here HEre! I agree 100%, I can't tell you how many times so far that I have inadvertently messed up a scene because I was watching the current position and thought I was changing a pattern in the current position only to realize my selected position was 17 scenes away and off screen.

 

I can't understand why this problem hasn't been fixed. I'm no computer wizz, but It stopped me in my tracks after just 2 days of using my new Maschine...

I don't think it would take very much to change. Why would you not follow the patten you where working on as the scenes played... Who designs this stuff ?

 

I second this too!

 

How hard could it be.... To be watching the group that is playing at the time.. after all you can't work on anything within a group unless the scene is highlighted but in play mode the scenes don't follow what is being played...

What they have done just doesn't make sense. I'm sure I'm not the only one that this frustrated... If you agree... why not flood the forum with new posts on this issue, maybe that way they will fix it...

 

I'm glad this has been brought up.
I hate that the screen doesn't refresh when a new pattern is playing.
It's bugged me since day one.

I hope they fix this for the next update.

Danny Z

 

I also think it would be a good idea for NI to draw inspiration from Ableton live functionality. Just like you are all saying that the patterns should switch up when the new ones are playing so you can visually see them as the play. I think it would also be cool for them to add a way of recording a live performance of switching patterns, mutes, etc... into one long sequence, which would still be editable.

I love the Maschine so far but these little tweaks would set it off...

Most software and hardware I have used allows chaining of patterns to make a final sequence or song. The MPC1000, Ableton Live, Reason, etc... all work this way. Please NI... feed us!

 

I can't understand why chaining wasn't one of the first things fixed.. Do the Techs at NI use what they create. I picked this problem up in the first week of using it..