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Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by enot, Sep 30, 2010.

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  1. TJ

    TJ NI Product Owner

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    Yeah baby! :D
     
  2. vinceprice

    vinceprice NI Product Owner

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    I think they are working on the VST thing they are too fkn quiet. Why aren't they showing us what the next update is? lmao Either they all got abducted by aliens or something is going on. That update spot is a little cold right now.
     
  3. TJ

    TJ NI Product Owner

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    If there is vst support i think i'll explode. :eek: I choose not to speculate though! I've found a happy medium with Maschine and Live.
     
  4. enot

    enot NI Product Owner

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    when they create komplete 8 all instruments should have sequencing capabilities built inside at the bottom of the instrument for standalone mode users. all the instruments should be able to connect to each other period, we will keep having these problems unless this happens.maschine can be the master so when ever you switch instruments maschine recognizes the switch and maschine and your keyboard is readily available to play and record. once your done you can drag and drop the recorded audio as stems into the daw so you will not need the daw until your happy with your work. and what would also be dope is when you save your work that you just sequenced separately in all the instruments it can be saved as a complete save, so when you need to open it back up all the instruments you used opens back up too and you can start back where you left off.
     
  5. duecesup

    duecesup New Member

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    I have to agree with everybody on here that's for total integration! NI it is time and long overdue for this. Take the same concept of Kore and make it better and apply it to Maschine. My experiences with Maschine as a plugin suck and there isn't alot of support in figuring it out with different DAW's and Maschine of course is best used in standalone mode. So why not add complete integration of the Komplete line as well as VST support? I'm so ready to use my favorite joints like Nexus 2 , Omnisphere, Trillan, Kontakt and many others right along side of my samples in a smooth workflow of Maschine standalone

    NI It's Time!
     
  6. saintjoe

    saintjoe NI Product Owner

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    giving Maschine the ability to host plugins is all that's needed, no complext bridging system and adding mini sequencers to all the other plugins (though I've often dreamed of having a sequencer IN kore or kontakt, more like a keyboard workstation type thing)

    Once Maschine is a vst/au host, it will be what many have been hoping for as far as integration, smooth workflow, limited only by your vst collection :)

    glory dayz!

    can't wait lol
     
  7. TJ

    TJ NI Product Owner

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    FTFY ;)
     
  8. saintjoe

    saintjoe NI Product Owner

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    lol, indeed!
     
  9. unknown stranger

    unknown stranger NI Product Owner

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    i would be even happy if they just integrate their own stuff for the beginning. vsts could be an additional source of trouble plus ni's got an amazing product range already. (not that i didnt want vsts desperately too, but i dont wanna wait forever)
    just imagine what you could do alone with reaktor in maschine for example. you would hardly need any other synth or fx again or you could make your own synth drum modules. and if they incorporate reaktors midi capabilities too, users could make arpeggiators, auto chords or midi remixing functions themselves... oh sh*t, i just jizzed in my pants. :)
     
  10. MIDI-IN-Kartell

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  11. TJ

    TJ NI Product Owner

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    Oh my i think i just had an accident!
     
  12. dazastah

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    Maschine is maschine as is. ... I'm guessing this is too much work to implement vst hosting as a simple feature update...

    I think a patch converter or program import would be better than hosting kontakt or battery inside maschine... Imagine the fuking headaches to program midi channels and patching info on a single pad... Bullshit and terrible workflow...

    Whats Next to ask? if they can make maschine to do your washing?:p
     
  13. saintjoe

    saintjoe NI Product Owner

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    no complex midi mapping/channels needed, open up a vst instead of a sound, and play it, would be simple lol.

    we need it :) or shall I say....WANT IT very much ;)

    the fact is, Maschine's sampler is just not the same as kontakt's, so I'd rather open the programs in Kontakt and have them be exactly how the creators of the libraries intended
     
  14. enot

    enot NI Product Owner

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    it has to be fast, it has to be easy to use, and it has to be cpu efficient. and if each NI instruments had sync and a built in sequencer with drag an drop audio capabilities your workflow would be a lot faster and simpler, with out all the crazy ass routing.
     
  15. saintjoe

    saintjoe NI Product Owner

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    I dunno man, having 3-5 different apps with some sort of sequencer and drag and drop audio thing going on as opposed to just having maschine sequence them internally? Maschine as a VST host is definitely less complicated then some web of interconnected standalone applications. You still have to have a way to route to these standalone apps, then you record where? In each app instead of in Maschine?

    Imagine what you're saying here, that's like saying open ableton, then open up each plugin separately with it's own mini sequencer, start ableton to send the sequence to the standalone app, then drag it back into ableton....instead of opening the plugin direclty in ableton and sequencing. I understand the passion and desire for wanting to see more connectivity between NI products but I just can't imagine having a mini sequencer in each product. And leaving them all standalone.

    All I want to do is open scarbee vintage keys on a sound via kontakt instead of the watered down version included in the Maschine library. No weird routing needed, just open the vst the same way you open Maschne sounds :)

    that's my vision lol
     
  16. b-natural

    b-natural NI Product Owner

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    Kontakt inside of Maschine would be epic!
     
  17. TJ

    TJ NI Product Owner

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    I think after battery others will follow. I hope we'll see something on the next update. One good argument for vst/native support is the 1 midi track limit when using it as a plugin in Live, and the lack of cc/automation. Do it all within maschine! If it's a question of stability then yeah limit it to NI instruments. If this comes i will buy komplete cause i will be able to unleash the full power of those instruments and have the tightest workflow. Reaktor modules ftw!
     
  18. flux302

    flux302 NI Product Owner

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    Vst support would solve alot of issues. Gimmie a proper timetrectch in the audio edit window though please!
     
  19. dazastah

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    What is the point of having Kontakt inside maschine as a sound if you could only use one instrument for every instance of kontakt it would be too much resource hogging.. Even if they made it so you could add one instance of kontkakt on a sound but have multiple instruments inside that one instance, you still have to map midi channels using other sound pads.. All too time consuming.. This is why i reckon they will never do it.. Since it becomes something like ableton or cubase.. I think they should add timestretch and maybe more fx or the ability for people to write new fx and a program converting tool/import.. but thats it.. LEave it as is... The limitations define it as a instrument... :D
     
  20. saintjoe

    saintjoe NI Product Owner

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    uhhhhmmm hmmm...let's see, I rarely use kontakt multitimbrally, in live, studio one, etc...I usually load one instance for the sound I want. 1 because I don't use kontakt only, so all my sounds don't come from it, 2, it really doesn't take up resources like folks think, at least not for me.

    I agree, there should be a cool way to use it that way if they let us use them in Maschine, but I just don't get all the talk of midi mapping and routing. It would be no different than using midi out lol, it's not time consuming to pick a midi channel.

    I hear from quite a few Maschine users on the daily, old and new, the top two requests I hear are timestretching and vst support, many buy maschine assuming it can already open NI products, sure they should have checked...but it's not a far off assumption, since it's a sequencer and NI make instruments, it's a logical idea.

    But then again, like anything else, if they add VST support, those that have no desire to use it, just don't, I know I will :)

    it's all speculation, I'm sure just as in the past, NI will add what they feel will benefit Maschine as a whole, based on the market and user feedback/requests. So we will just have to wait and see.

    I, like many, have been hoping for vst support from day one, so I can use Maschine as my production tool by itself, I'll leave my daw for recording ;)
     
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