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New Features to 1.8 Maschine

Discussion in 'Feature Request Archive' started by zeekaville25, Mar 13, 2010.

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  1. zeekaville25

    zeekaville25 Forum Member

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    4 virtual pad groups for up to 32 groups.

    4 virtual scene groups for up to 256 scenes

    Batch export for every scene.

    Up to one Virtual Instruments (VSTi) for each sound pad in a group. For standalone Maschine musicians. For super creative expressive music with one software.

    4 VST effects slots per sound module.

    VST effects with macro control for up 64 virtual macro nobs per Effects channel slot.

    One Group DAW features for adding vocal tracks and importing internal features into a single sound on a single group for multitrack features.

    Advance Time shifting features.

    New feature velocity turbulence or (Vertical Keyboard), where you line a single sound on a 128 keyboard map and play each sound vertical instead of horizontal. For much more creativity.


    New feature the (Cross Coherence Key) up to 20 sounds of your choice that would be automatically cross or randomly put on a keyboard map, in each sound module per group for nice combination's on a single keyboard map sound module. For creativity at it's finest.

    Randomize effects button.

    Native Instruments (komplete) all bundles patches import.

    Midi Import sound pool

    Isn't this the greatest DAW in one package? 20dollar upgrade
     
  2. BlackMath

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    this is pointless and should be deleted
     
  3. zeekaville25

    zeekaville25 Forum Member

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    Hey some people don't want to buy a new DAW. Some people rather have there Maschine that comes with all those cool features, isn't it the coolest drum maschine in the game isn't it. Well add VSTi's and Vst's to that nice 16 step drum machine so we could stop waisting all that good cpu power.

    Besides some can't afford a new DAW.
     
  4. smithwessen

    smithwessen NI Product Owner

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    you make some valid suggestions but i think you are thinking too far ahead of yourself
     
  5. BlackMath

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    that maybe true but what your suggesting as features would make Maschine a Bloated, Slow, and probably to much for your average enthusiast to master. All you are doing is transferring the load to Maschine... it doesn't have its own Processor (DSP) and would still use your computers resources...with or without a seperate DAW

    and since we haven't actually gotten the official 1.5 yet its pointless to start a thread discussing a mythical 1.8 in the main forum. try the feature suggestions sub forum.
     
  6. zeekaville25

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    Man i'm a artist, so personally i just don't have the time, to conjure up beats. I need something fast, all in one package.

    But i don't know why people think its so hard add a few features, i mean people on www.Kvraudio.com everyday making VST hosts to host Vsti and Vst effects. Just single one man little back door people making VSTi hosts. N.I team is probably a 100 man strong, yet all professionals. I mean man i don't any problems with them hooking it up.

    I mean just think brother MPC 5000 has one system for everything, Roland Fantom also. I mean i look at that Maschine as better than both those, yet i know with a VSTi added this could be greatest thing for the next few years. A software beating all the hardware out.

    All in one package,
    that's what N.I should focus on is just this Maschine, and put away that kore and the rest of those software. Build everything around Maschine.
    Put added software like N.I Fm8 inside of Maschine or like i said VSTi support and it's the best music at least this year.


    I mean perfect example a software that just came out 2 days ago.BloXpander, vsti host and effects host. I mean i would use that but it's not maschine, yet i need a nice keyboard melody going on a nice 16 step.

    Vsti support please
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    Well you don't need to put it on if you don't want to, but just have the feature there for other would make a masterpiece.

    Bloated, all those DAW's or bloated, we need something fast with a few features. I'm not saying put cut in paste or advance midi notation inside of Maschine, i mean a few features won't make it Fruity Loops. I mean just add VSTi support, i mean you have Daw's inside of Daw's already hosting. lol You have rewire devices.

    DSP well i tell you what the DAW demo's i have aint really to good with DSP i mean my cpu super high with 3 small effects, that's not the best DSP's. 6gb ram, 2xeon processors.

    Man let N.I hook that thing up. Like i said build everything around Maschine. Let that be the future.
     
  7. BlackMath

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    thats great and I here what you're saying but you have to consider that adding vst support to Maschine will add a whole lot of bugs just for the simple reason that are so many different manufacturers.

    Vst support would be awesome but I think you're gonna sacrifice performance and stability.

    having to deal with dongles and PLAY engine and all that? ugh

    just get Live already
     
  8. tysonviolin

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    Maschine is using too many resources as it is in my system.. I say let them try to make it more efficient before any more changes beyond the 1.5 update.
     
  9. smithwessen

    smithwessen NI Product Owner

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    i beg to differ, if they have implemented it into kore > without all the negative points you have mentioned, it can be done with maschine, its just implementing it in the right way.

    kore is a ni product so it should be that even more easier to implement vsti support.

    they just need to plan a structure to work with maschine, ie menu layouts accessing vsti etc.

    so it can be done
     
  10. BlackMath

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    really.... do alot of software/hardware development do you.?...pffft
    I didn't say it couldn't be done.. its would just add bugs and time to develop.
     
  11. bebdigga

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    i kno all dis would b cool nd all but all dat work takes time..dis post iz gettin outta hand..and if we get all this then there's nothing took look foward to in da future..i like the whole suprise thing..but dat's me..peace out..
     
  12. BlackMath

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    seriously?:p
     
  13. zeekaville25

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    I already have live, it's cool but i just need something all together. Live is better to me than Steinberg when you want to make something quick and on beat. But my maschine made me look like wow, i never had a drum maschine like this before.
    For the first time, out of a Mpc 1000 and others that i really made well crafted beats
    Now that i got the well crafted beats i need a vsti to bring melodys in on Maschines 16 step, which is way better than lives.

    All i'm saying is that N.I Maschine has all the work, all they got to do is surround it with strong updates (talent) and this could take the place of any DAW, Drum Maschine and Hardsynth period
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    Na brother

    There's always something we will need, if we get this now. We could stop worrying for a while, until they give us a singing synth, and a million Komplete 7 presets for free. lol

    But there always going to be something we all might need like aftereffect and other key triggers.

    Besides if we let them slack now then they will never get any updates done and we will be waiting and waiting forever.
     
  14. BlackMath

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    If NI is as smart as I think they are they will never try to make Maschine into a something that takes the place of a DAW.
    Vst support =prolly something in the future. But certainly not one per pad for every group. 128 instances of various vst's from any and all companies and have it run smoothly.... sure it sounds great but it ain't gonna happen....not anytime soon.
    You might as well request that it do your laundry and give you a happy ending before you go to sleep every night..... thus why your list of requests is pointless at this stage of Maschine's development (and for $20 upgrade)

    Thats just silly

    It would behoove all Maschine owners to try (at least) to come up with a list of reasonable feature requests for the Dev Team.
     
  15. iceritchie

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    Dont forget there is a business model to consider here for NI. Would they really want to develop their, good selling portfolio to one product, expecially when it seems that the majority arent looking for a complete audio production feature set in one product. There is a business reason why Ford dont make one car, Apple one iPod etc etc. Sales and Marketing are the a key consideration for NI.

    I think most producers i speak to (Am or Pro) like to have a variety of tools at their disposal.
     
  16. zeekaville25

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    Well anything is possible,

    But personally i don't see anybody putting a 128 vsti on maschine or a single vsti like korg M1 on each sound module, now that would be slow. But maybe 3 -5 should be the limit of Vsti's. I don't think nobody's that stupid unless you have a new Dell precision boasting 36gb of ram with dual xeon quad core cpu. But that would be something to start off with, maybe even limit the VSTi's to 5 and 20 vst effects.
     
  17. BlackMath

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    "Up to one Virtual Instruments (VSTi) for each sound pad in a group. For standalone Maschine musicians. For super creative expressive music with one software."

    is what I was referring to with 128 vst instances



    ok now you're starting to make some sense.:D
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  18. zeekaville25

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    Yea but when you got ((the)) product you run with it. It takes years for guy's to come up with something that craves the next generations list, and this is it.

    This product is hand down the best in it's Drum machine class when it comes to producing top level beats, but beats and sampling sometimes you may want to put a waves audio effect in a standalone player like maschine just get the music out real quick and easy without going into a DAW like Live or Steinberg.

    Yea the reason why Ford doesn't put out 1 vehicle or Apple doesn't come out with 1 ipod is because there is competition. But you see Apple stuck to the concept the ipod then the iphone, now the ipad.

    And that's all im saying what N.I should do, is stick with what is on top, and Maschine is it, there is no competition for now, but they must update to keep getting attention that there software, hardware bundle is the best of best. Now there product is the best but it needs to keep moving so that it keeps the lead on other products that keep updating like Roland Fantom and Yamaha Motif XS.
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    Well the same as a DAW nobody is expected to use a 100 vsti's, at the most in a project you use about 5. So i can't see nobody even attemping to use more than 5.
     
  19. BlackMath

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  20. zeekaville25

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    ha? lol
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    Maschine is the Lebron James of the drum machine world. You do like the cav's do put shaq around him. lol
     
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