New Features to 1.8 Maschine

Zeekaville25, I dont disagree with your concept, but i think NI have developed and will continue to develop this product. I also think that there are two aspects to your philosophy a) what do people want. In the audio world i think people like to have a product that does 'a' job, and does it well. They will combine what they feel best to configure their own solutions. This is the power of plug ins. Im not sure in this domain people want maschine to do more diverse things, just get better at its core product. I would be interested to see what others think though. And b) in a marketing world NI im sure will develop all their products, cease some, develop new. After all they need to operate their product development as a business. Apple do this, they have developed a wider range of products from their original few several years ago, iPad doesnt replace iPod. I dont think iPhone users would ditch that for iPad. In marketing terms NI will develop products people want and differentiate in how they do it. Another important point is first to market (a philosophy recognised as being more important than best in market) in business terms. NI have the product out there and are updating it, so are in pole position. Getting Maschine out there, developing it as they seem to be doing works for them and it appears for (most of) us.

 

the engine is there and could be ported to coinside with maschine,
only development time needed is to port the functionality to maschine.

add bugs and time to develope < whats new about that
what are all these beta tests about< to iron out all bugs before official launch of 1.5.


without some of the suggestions that WE have made on this board there would be alot of neat stuff missing.

I would love to see increased functionality like many others here, nothing wrong with that.

alot of us have brang this up over the months, kontakt support, vsti support etc, this aint something new,

keep your attitude at the side line,
no one is here to argue or fight , we here to dicuss a product we own and try to steer the direction of its future.

 

When did I say there was something wrong with increased functionality?
My criticism was directed solely at the OP list of features.
apparently you've missed my point... thats fine...whatever
who's gotta an attitude? not me just having a discussion with some people on a forum
but thats funny coming from someone who uses a gun manufacturer as there username.

 

That's what i want to see, all our ideas come to life. If they won't get suggestions we would be stuck in maschine 1.0 but now we caused 1.5 to come about. Then higher.

We got to be persistent.

 

your first post in the forums was this thread so I'm not sure how "we" caused 1.5 to come about..... he said with the least bit of attitude.

 

Yea and your right, because it does do what we need it to do right now, the most simplistic drum maschine of our time. But it's time for new added features, Ni can't just please you and the only a drum machine hippies, it has to please everybody's needs. Don't get me wrong, i love this thang as a standalone drum machine, but i need a one studio package.

 

its an easy mistake to try and make maschine all things to all people.
it gets bloated very quickly and introduces instability (especially vst)
just look at the big problems ableton are having with version 8. there must have been at least 30 odd beta's since release and there are still issues judging by the forums and personal experience.

by far the most stable software i've used is reason.
i've never had a single crash in nearly 10 years since 1.0 arrived, i've used macs extensively for 20 years (im a graphic designer) and this is the only error-free app i've ever used - the 'reason' why? no external (vst, au, rtas etc).

maschine is not and never should be a DAW .

maschine should stick to it's original USP and aim to the best 'groove production studio' out there - via the hardware/software combo. if feature requests fit with this vision, great. if not, then it should be a no.

alongside the well overdue groove quantise, i'd like to see a separate set of effect groups. you can do some great things by chaining the built in effects but you lose a whole group for each chain. giving effects their own groups should sort this.

 

exactly what I was trying to say but with just a pinch more attitude

 

Oh ok.

You know i just think it's in our minds, because you have other programs like Fruity loops and other programs that have a all in one package, and it gets boring because it is bulky.

But I can't see Maschine going down, it came up a drum maschine, sampler, with hardware pads and it will continue to be that.

I think what NI need to do with Maschine software is build tabs inside of a workspace, so that once we hit a tab you getting into a VSTi plugin or another tab a new mixer or Multitrack recorder while still having them linked together. I believe that would solve that stigma about us seeing and not believing what it still could do even with more pieces around it.
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Well reason is a musical platform, that has too much of it's own added features, maybe if they did have vsti's it would be so boring and ordinary. But you can't compare Reason to the backbone of Maschine software. Because Reason does not have a responsive hardware controller, that chops and samples on the fly with out looking at the software.

Maschine should add VSTi' support and also build a workspace tabs to switch from Maschine to Vsti's and ext.

 

there's no such thing as all around.. if that wus da case ya'll wouldn't have live,cubase ect.. and all dem other different daw's,vst's.au...wuteva..they won't b any competition/anything left to the imagination/monopoly..learn how to work with what u got then trying to always worry about what u wanna get..

 

I mean VSTi are instruments thats updating everyday. Everyday at least 1 come out.

I mean i need creativity

 

you need vst's to be creative? that's kind of disappointing.
see how creative you can be with a limited amount of tools as opposed to more tools than you know what to do with.

I know for me too many options and choices slows down my creativity because I get mired in sifting through libraries and presents and samples and......zzzzzzzzzzz

 

Your calculations are all wrong


You keep your attitude at home , this aint gearsluts

you keep your pffftt's and your attacks away from me and anbody elses posts.

i am not your friend do not talk to me as if i were one.

your snide comments have no place here

back on topic

adding vsti's into maschine would be great to work in the box, but concearning mixing issues, i would always have to bounce down into cubase as i have more "control" and its just what i am acustomed to.

i could not mix a whole track within maschine (whole meaning beat + vocals), as that is not what its really intended for, productions is what maschine shines at best, and implementing vsti support will give users more tools to utilize and make there beats.

 

hahhahahahaha...... jesus talk about attitude
I never made a personal attack on you or anybody else so save it dude
if you don't want to hear my opinion about something don't make stupid comments
and I won't call you out on it.
You seem to think implementation of some of these features is so simple just because both products are made by the same company.
When in fact you have no idea whats involved in the process.
Get off your high horse and chill out

 

im with Blackmath and Iceritchie - - 1 gazillion per cent!

seriously, I would not want all that VST availablity on Maschine anyway, perhaps 1 group that could be used as a maximum, id probably expect in all reality for it to host 1-3 VST maximum and even then if this is implemented NI will probably tell you the VST that can and cant be installed - and as for making comparisons to thing like fantom etc.... OP says cant afford new DAW, well I wonder if cost was ever put into the equasion for the initial wish list - I think not - imagine how inacessable Maschine would be TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF USERS? personally I think a DAW would come in a LOT cheaperthan the wishlist, and Maschine be better for it as standalone as created....

but thats me...

 

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people have the right to disagree thats perfectly acceptable, but don't try belittle others in the process,

your comments are snide

"Derogatory in a malicious, superior way"

if you cant word your arguments in a civilized way i suggest you keep it to yourself.

i wont take part in this discussion any further

 

can all of us calm down a bit here..... so that means no mud slinging between posters.

people have different opinions, please respect that.

so lets forget some resent posts and just get back to the thread.

thanks

sowari

 

Im sorry Smithwessen If i have offended you and I will keep this in mind when responding to your posts from now on.

 

likewise if it seemed like i missed your point regarding the op's feature request and i came off with an attitude then i to do apologize for that, i was just enthusiastic about a few points that interested me (Vsti support).

theres alot of possibility and features they can get into maschine, 1.5 is a great update no doubt, i love the vintage emulation of the sp12 hundred, and the mpc modes, zooming with controller, selecting notes with controller, truncate, save project with samples etc

whats top of my feature list is a timestretch this feature alone holds top spot,
if we as users do not request tools that are needed within our production environment they may never come to light.

Ni have listened to its users and incoroperated many of the things suggested,

lastly for me to make my beats solely within maschine i would need it to host vst's,
once i have my projects complete in maschine i could simply bounce down, mix within my daw of choice to utilise my other investments in vst plugs and to mix down vocals.

i would prefer maschine to host vst's like kore as it would suit my workflow better,

 

Lol,

Well i been working with Vst's,programs for about 10years and drum programs for about 11yrs (hammerhead). I'm not new to DAW so all this regular stuff i get boried with. That's why i need something that update regularly, i mean i like to here new sounds, and people update and put new sounds in VST's everyday on www.Kvraudio.com.
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Me i worked with Motif xs and mpc1000, but one is just to complicated and the other is well it just don't have the features as Maschine. Me I like too throw everything in the mix, and that's why i need Vsti, so i could create melodys for hooks.

I mean we sample most the time melodys (pianos, bass, sax, ext.)