New Maschine product ideas! Post your thoughts!

Version two of Maschine should be more integrated with Kore. Add the jog wheel and the extra knobs into Maschine and consolidate both products with Audio Kontrol 1. That way Maschine can act as a controler, patch creator for plugins and a sound card with at least two inputs for direct recording/sampling without the need of occupying extra USB ports. Also take this concept and make a keyboard version of it as well! I think this would take over. It might possibly make Maschine slightly bigger; you can make two versions. The current one which would be a more portable solution and the second an all in one production solution.

 

maschine 2.0 should use the same controller imo. the controller shouldnt be changed until version 10.0 or something like that.

 

I disagree....an audio interface with direct inputs would be awesome. Considering my Mac Book Pro has only two USB ports; it would free one up so I can connect a keyboard controller. I'm pretty sure a dedicated sound card and word clock within Maschine would eliminate any latency caused by third party sound cards. Direct external sampling and snync with external gear....this opens up a whole world of opportunity....

 

Why is everyone wanting these crazy changes when this isn't event he second MAJOR move for the maschine? Ya'all want all this wild/crazy stuff and we don't even have timestretch yet!

 

-1 for a new controller. You don't need more buttons. Kore can be integrated into Maschine as it exists now quite easily (in fact as a plugin in 1.6, all that is missing is an easy way to browse it from the hardware).

-1 for integrated soundcard. USB hubs are cheap. Keep the cost of the unit down, let the owner buy whichever soundcard they need for the purposes of machine. There are people in the beta forums asking for 16 channels of input! To say a dedicated sound card would eliminate latency is utterly fallacious.

-1 for integrated keyboard. Keep the costs of the unit down, let the owner buy whichever keyboard suits their need. Some don't want a keyboard connected to a controller, some want to roll their keyboard away under the desk (like me), some want fully weighted 61 keys etc etc.

 

Where are all these new maschine hardware threads coming from?
Everything you mentioned can be done better with dedicated hardware, I don't see the point in integrating all this crap

 

i think they could make a keyboard version of maschine controller which will have the same buttons and knobs so they dont need t o re-write the software but it would also have about 8 drum buttons and maybe some sliders and data wheels

 

^ What lethal said

 

I quote lethal as well... all these threads about a new maschine controller are full of nonsense.
maschine is still missing a lot of things in the software and even when those missing parts will be added, the hardware we have now will be more than enough to control everything.

I don't want to insult anyone, but in my experience those who keep talking about new hardware are usually just gear-hungry people that don't even use what they already have that much... and that only suggest additions that "look" cool, but that aren't really needed.

 

Yeah, I think it's partly a by-product of the consumer mentality where people are conditioned to expect a new model replacing last year's version every year, especially when it comes to electronic equipment. And it might also have to do with the fact that NI went back to the drawing board after Kore 1 and revised the controller for Kore 2, and similarly with the Rig Kontrol for Guitar Rig, which may lead some people to speculate whether the same might be true for Maschine.

But if you think about it, the Maschine controller came directly out of the lessons NI learned from making the first incarnations of the Kore/Guitar Rig controllers. Maschine has a very refined controller and I don't see it being replaced anytime soon.

 

You guys over analyze things...audio inputs into the Maschine controller is not that crazy of an idea and would improve the workflow and free up a usb port. I'm a person who travels and makes money from music; hardly a consumer banging beats in my bedroom. These are actually requests i've gotten from multiple users who are professionals in the industry. Many of which make money using the gear they own. There can be more then one version of Maschine. We can keep the current one and a more feature blown out version. NI has more then one sound card option and DJ controller; if they do make more then one Maschine controllerl no says anyone here has to buy every product NI makes. You get what you need according to what suits you best. The fact that many people want more things on Maschine is good....that means people see the potential it has and are willing to think out of the box to improve something which is good. I'm a long time user of many hardware drum Maschines' and will not be complacent with something if I know it can be better. Non-the-less I think NI has done a great job with Maschine but I still think there is room for improvement. Trust me this features would suite a traveling performer very well and I own HD converters and various keyboards....but I can't take them on the road with me!

 

My reason for wanting a new controller are different. I feel the current controller is pretty nice but can be better. Slightly taller tilt screens are needed. Too much scrolling and shift this and hold that. Needs more dedicated buttons. NI already admitted part of the reason some of Battery's basic editing features are left off is that they are to hard to map to the current controls. A few more dedicated buttons would cure that by letting you access additional pages without scrolling to death.

I am also for a keyboard version with pads. It would cost more but should not replace the pad only unit. It should be optional. Same way Korg did the M3 with a tabletop and keyboard versions. V2 should also stay compatible with the current compact controller and yall can shift and scroll away to access the new functions lol.

Don't want to pay extra for a sound card. Would not mind if it had the option to insert a sound card. Kind of like how Yamaha and Korg have those firewire options for their boards that can be purchased separate. This way you can customize it to your personal needs.

 

So what soundcard would you like in there? How many ins and outs? Instruments? Microphones? Phono preamps? Digital? I can guarantee the answer will be different depending on which 'gigging professional' you ask, cutting down the potential market for this new controller even further.

The reason NI have lots of different soundcards, is that people want lots of different soundcards. This is why you won't see one in particular shoved into Maschine.

I don't think the above is overthinking things, really. I think it's fairly simple. And you did say 'post your thoughts'!

 

The beauty of the current unit is it's simplicity.... and it's a good thing it doesn't come with an NI audio interface .... just look at the BS going down for PC users with S4 ...

Keep Maschine clean, lean and functional ... just the way it already is.

If you want all the extras in one, just rack it all up in a custom case and build it to exactly your specs (MIDI keys, audio I/O etc) ...

 

The most important thing to me is two audio ins/outs. The size of the current controller should be able to accommodate it without a problem. The software can still have the ability to disable the sound card and use it with third party converters. I don't think these features would make Maschine more then $100 more expensive.

Either way this post was meant for people to throw ideas out there. It wasn't meant for people to shoot down imagination.

 

I hardly think I'm 'shooting down imagination' by suggesting that building a 2in/2out version of Maschine that only specifically appeals to a tiny portion of the installed userbase is an unwise and unlikely idea.
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Having said that, NI will probably announce it tomorrow

 

I want a newly designed controller as well but not sure more buttons are the solution. The pads currently have secondary functions such as semitone, clear, quantize, undo, etc. I would get rid of all these current secondary functions. I would assign Sampling, Sample Edit, Browse, Sound/SRC, Midi Control, Step, Scene, Pattern, Piano Roll, Effects, Automation, Macro, Preferences, Map, Mixer, etc as secondary functions for the pads. This would eliminate almost half of the buttons. This would allow room for jog shuttle/data wheel + cursor key combo that is standard on most workstations as well as a few sliders. Combine the two LCDs to form a larger one and make it adjustable....that would be a much better controller. Arm rest and side panels should be made available as options for those that want to customized their unit.

 

its all about choice some only want the current setup there could be different classes of hardware some with the audio ins and some with a keyboard.

cos i dont want two pieces of hardware if i could have a keyobard based controller with all the knowbs and the dual screen of machines current controller that would be idea.

but the key would be that the software works the same for all versions and depending on what additional features ur particular controller had the drivers would link the relavent new features from the drivers to the maschine software.

 

How many audio in and outs would you want, jpeg? I personally want RCAs, phono pre-amps, Ghost power for microphones, and guitar jacks.

And how many keys on your keyboard?

 

please not a maschine with an inbuild soundcard. it's much more flexible/professional if you're able to choose your personally setup!

i want to see: BETTER HARDWARE QUALITY!

and: more unique knobs, buttons, etc. which have their own function (less submenus, less shift functions...) = faster & more intuitive music producing.