Newbie question: Vibrato in Kompakt?

Hi,

Excuse a newbie for asking a question that might be either stupid or answered a hundred times before. I've bought Eastwest Colossus powered by NI Kompakt to use it in Sonar Producer Edition 5.2. My simple question is this: how can I add som vibrato to a sound? The Tune LFO is of no use, since I can alter only the frequence, but not the amplitude of the (sine) wave. And the default amplitude is all too big.


Kind regards,
wb

 

Okay, so you have all been laughing at my stupidity for two days now - that should be enough, I think. Now, if somebody could be kind enough to give me even a smallest hint: is it possible to add a smooth vibrato to, say, an upright bass? Or does the LFO modulation automatically turn the instrument into a mad siren, as it now does with it's big amplitude?


wb

 

CONTINUING MONOLOGUE, PART III:

Well thank you, thank you! I'm totally overwhelmed with gratitude! How generous you are, particularly the Most Honourable moderators: one week my simple, discreet question has been here, 111 people seem to have viewed it, but nobody has breathed a single word. - You sure know how to make a new member feel welcome!


wb

 

I Feel Your Pain! NI Tech Support Has Been Non-Responsive

Dear Waldemar,

First let me say that this is the first time I've logged into the Forum and I WILL answer you!

I am sorry to say that I believe that including vibrato is the job of the sound library which you are playing in Kompakt. If Kompakt were to simply have an algorithm to pitch-bend a note using oscillators, the result would not be the same as a real play changing timbre etc. It would sound like a synthesizer, I believe.

Let me also say, I need controllable vibrato in the libraries I use as well.

I am also with you in complaining about the non-responsiveness of NI tech support. Two days ago I was told (by no less than the Los Angeles manager of tech support) that I'd get a call back in "half an hour" responding to my question. It has been two days, and ... nothing from NI's tech support.

I will post my tech question in another post. This was just a note to tell you you are not alone - I enjoyed your ironical writing style!

 

Thank you very much, privatesurfer! It sure feels good to see anorher inhabitant on this lonely planet.

Really? Isn't it the library's job to supply the sounds, while the playing device - in this case Kompakt - should do the tweaking? The sounds in Eastwest Colossus do react to Kompakt's LFO modulation; the problem is only that a modulation wave where you can't change the amplitude is totally useless for this purpose. - As it in fact is for most other purposes as well, unless the fixed amplitude by accident fits your needs, which rarely is the case.

Guess I'll have to add the modulation manually with the pitch bend wheel then. It's more difficult, and besides: sitting there wiggling that wheel all through the song feels a little... how should I say... perverted.

Once again: thank you for your kind answer, even if my problem remains. Oh, and irony is just a strategy of survival in an insane world.



wb

 

Hi WB,

I don't know why I didn't notice your post before. Normally I see all the new posts but somehow the system didn't notify me of this one...

The answer to your question is that Kompakt Player doesn't really provide this, unfortunately. It's a really simple sample playback engine.

There are many ways to simulate vibrato via various algorithms but Kompakt doesn't give you much of an avenue to be able to do this. If you really want to get into this, consider crossgrading to Kontakt 2, which gives you several ways to program things like this.

 

Hi David,

Thank you for your answer - finally. I will have to consider crossgrading or other solutions. But still: as a moderator, perhaps you could tell the geeks at NI that since this "simple sample playback engine" already lets the user tweak the LFO rate, it shouldn't be too difficult to expand this tweaking possibility to the amplitude as well.


Kind regards,
wb