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NI products native Apple Sillicon support?

Dieses Thema im Forum "General Chat" wurde erstellt von 3vilRat, 28. April 2021.

  1. lephilb

    lephilb NI Product Owner

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    Interesting thread to read. Thanks. For the moment I can still be positive as most of the vst's are working quiet pretty good under rosetta... only the Crush Pack modules that are graphically laggy ( moving the knobs is a bit slow and erratic ) ... does someone has that too.. ?
     
  2. vanb777

    vanb777 New Member

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    Does “full support for Apple Silicon across all of our current products” include Komplete 12? Or will these updates only be available to the latest 13+ versions?
     
  3. Matt @ NI

    Matt @ NI NI Team NI Team

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    Most of the products included in Komplete 12 are also in Komplete 13.
    I'm guessing the only one that might not be ported to Silicon would be Guitar Rig 5 Pro (included in K12).
     
  4. merges

    merges New Member

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    May I ask why NI didn't proceed with these updates, working closely with Apple's developer relations teams, knowing that this was coming for many, many months? Also, may I ask why there is no commitment at all to any kind of schedule?
     
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  5. JesterMgee

    JesterMgee Well-Known Member

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    Prob because Apple users aren't more important than everyone else and NI don't set public schedules for anything or put an important focus on any specific area over another... There are many more balls to juggle than the mess Apple introduce every 12 months and it is well known that you cannot develop and fully test until after the OS is released as they can and do make changes right up to and even in the months after a release if a major issue is found which can break the time companies invest and they have to re-test things all over again.

    Sux to have to wait but as an Apple user this is something you must get use to since every developer is constantly playing catchup and will no sooner release compatibility before the next announcement and having to do it all again and unfortunately, NI have a LOT of products with a lot of aspects (hardware, software and driver levels) they would have to test and they still have to do the day to day stuff the rest of the userbase needs.
     
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  6. esadykov89

    esadykov89 New Member

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    I just wanted to note that you need to run Logic Pro in Rosetta 2 Mode to use it with Komplete Kontrol Keyboards. Otherwise it is not recognised.
     
  7. Mishu Calian

    Mishu Calian New Member

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    Hi everyone,
    Any updates on this? I intend to buy a M1 computer and I'd like to know that the stuff that I paid for works as intended.
     
  8. Maciej Repetowski

    Maciej Repetowski NI Product Owner

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    Everything works under Rosetta, no native M1 versions yet.
     
  9. Mishu Calian

    Mishu Calian New Member

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    Thanks Maciej,
    Any info on native versions timeframe?
     
  10. Matt @ NI

    Matt @ NI NI Team NI Team

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    We don't have an exact timeframe quite yet but it should hopefully start rolling towards the end of the year.
     
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  11. Mishu Calian

    Mishu Calian New Member

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    That would be great, thanks!
     
  12. Maciej Repetowski

    Maciej Repetowski NI Product Owner

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    Fantastic news, Matt :thumbsup::D
     
  13. Matt @ NI

    Matt @ NI NI Team NI Team

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    Don't take my word for it though, just what I can kinda guess from the roadmap :p
     
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  14. Maciej Repetowski

    Maciej Repetowski NI Product Owner

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    No worries, I understand the extent of work that needs to be done with such a vast portfolio of apps NI has. Any progress in that regard is good reason to be cheerful ;)
     
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  15. nightjar

    nightjar Active Member

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    Thanks for this estimate on timing...
     
  16. Matt @ NI

    Matt @ NI NI Team NI Team

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    I'll keep my eye but any updates.

    I can really assure you all that despite the debate on Silicon here, we really want to get this done as quickly as possible.
     
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  17. ThomasM74

    ThomasM74 New Member

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    You better do as Apple yesterday basically cancelled all Intel Macbooks and now has only Apple Silicon ones.
     
  18. Kubrak

    Kubrak NI Product Owner

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    And what about milions of old Intel Macs? And there is Rosetta as temporary solution for new Apple Silicon ones....

    NI is not the only SW developer, that does not support AS natively, yet. For example Eventide does not as well.. Few months of waiting is not going to kill anyone.

    And beside that, there are Win 11 users. There is not just Apple Silicon user base, there are also other users with their needs.
     
  19. ThomasM74

    ThomasM74 New Member

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    Well for my part, I am actually a Windows user. Obviously the world does not consist only of Mac users. But while, with a software development background, I can understand that all this needs time, on the other hand I use Reaper and Bitwig as a DAW, both support Apple Silicon at least Bitwig officially supports already Windows 11 (reaper doesn't mention it but I would expect it to just work). But I would think the differences between Windows 10 and Windows 11 are hopefully not so big and I actually would expect that everything which works on Windows 10 also should work on Windows 11...

    Apple is a different story. All of this version mess with their OS actually kept me always on Windows.
    But the Apple Silicon is so good, I might get weak...
     
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  20. Kubrak

    Kubrak NI Product Owner

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    I agree that W11 will be most probably OK. But, everything must be tested, before NI states it is compatible.

    And for example AMD Ryzens have problems on Win11, so SW demanding power, like music SW, might experience dropouts for projects that run OK on Win10....

    Apple Silicon chip is not that great, as the hype describes it. It has smaller/comparable CPU power like "ordinary" Ryzen 7 APU 5700G. And AMD has even stronger chips than 5700G. And in two years Zen 4 will come. And it will bring up to 16 full cores for notebooks/miniPCs and IPC improvements.

    I use 5700G CPU on Win10 and it performs very well, while beeing energy effective and my setup is small and easy to carry.
    https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMini X300 Series/index.asp#Overview