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No post-fader fx in pro?

Discussion in 'TRAKTOR PRO / TRAKTOR SCRATCH PRO' started by beez_nutz, May 22, 2010.

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  1. beez_nutz

    beez_nutz NI Product Owner

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    I thought this was dealt with in T3 - am i wrong to expect the fx to work post fader?
     
  2. chachakoala

    chachakoala NI Product Owner

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    ? The fact that you can hear the fx in you master output means that fx are post fader. Are you playing on external decks?
     
  3. beez_nutz

    beez_nutz NI Product Owner

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    my bad - i meant pre fader, you know, if you add delay to a track and pull the volume fader to zero you should still hear the delay going
     
  4. mixarchitekt

    mixarchitekt NI Product Owner

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    you were right the first time.

    if you had a track playing with the fader up and added delay

    then pulled the fader down which cuts the track but the delay rings out

    the effects after the fader - thus post fader.

    if the total sound is killed when the fader is down, then you're talking pre-fader.

    and in the case of pro, it's tragically pre-fader fx inserts, which to me are not very useful.
     
  5. beez_nutz

    beez_nutz NI Product Owner

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    k.

    so am i wrong to believe this was available with an older version of traktor?
    and is there a workaround solution to this scenario?
     
  6. syne101

    syne101 Forum Member

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    I think he means if there is a delay on a track for example and he slams the fader down, the delay should still keep going..As it acts now, the fx follow the level of the faders.
     
  7. Danny_H

    Danny_H NI Product Owner

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    Surely this is what the 'freeze' buttons are for?

    I transition out of tracks with a nice delay for example by using freeze in combination with the effect filter control - no need to touch the channel/cross fader?
     
  8. Parihelion

    Parihelion New Member

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    The "workaround solution" that you are asking for requires having a post fader FX loop on your external mixer, and an available in/out channel on your soundcard to run the post fader mix into Traktor (to add the effect) and then out again to the mixer, post fader.

    Step 1
    In File/Preferences/Effects change the effect type of desired FX engine (1,2,3, or 4)from "Insert" to "Send." Next, change the File/Preferences/Input Routing, "Input Send" to the desired in/out channel on your soundcard, and in File/Preferences/Output Routing, change the "Output Send" to the desired in/out channel. I use the NI Audio 8 soundcard, and route through in/out 7,8 channel D to produce post fader FX, but I believe any in/out channel will work.

    Step 2
    The external mixer's "FX send" needs to route into your soundcard's new "Send" channel (the same channel used in step one) and the channel's output needs to route into the "FX return", also make sure that the mixer's FX loop is turned on and/or the FX send/return knob/slider/whatever is set above "zero"
     
  9. beez_nutz

    beez_nutz NI Product Owner

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    i had a feeling this was the only way......

    is it possible to do it internally? somehow?
    i'm using a soundcard with no inputs.....
    btw, i'm running TPro on mbp with snowleopard.


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    yeah, i have a button on my controller which is set to FX On as well as the Freeze
    and it does work but it is not the same.

    think of a console in a studio that has send knobs - if you turn the send knob while
    a track is playing and quickly turned it down then the tail of the reverb will keep
    going and the track keeps playing, you're not having any intreruptions in your sound,
    it just blends in nicely. you can't really do that with traktor, if you turn the reverb fx
    knob while a track is playing and you turn it back down quickly the tail of the reverb
    will not cary. this is pretty retarded, really, is just so basic i don't understand why NI
    wouldn't have it setup this way.



     
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