Noobie help

I've just noticed that when you load a second instrument into a multirack from the same Kontakt library folder (e.g. Funk Bass and Pop Bass), the key controls for both instruments (volume, pan etc) get synced together. This does not seem to be the case if the second instrument is from a different folder.

My question is how do you prevent Kontakt from doing this?
i.e. Keep the volume faders independant of each other.

 

When the program is doing, is putting the instruments on the same MIDI channel. For example if you add 2 bass guitars in, they both get assigned to channel 1.

To assign 2 instruments to different channels, there is a drop down menu in the instrument settings called channel. Simply make sure all your instruments are on different channels, and you can control them seperately.

 

Also make sure in your options menu (not sure where in K3) that you have selected "midi channel assingment" is at "1st free" (or something along those lines, not omni.

 

Hi... Thats sort of makes sense but in another way it doesnt!

:S

In the example I gave, I manually switched all 4 instruments to midi channel 1... but it is only the 2 instruments selected from the same library folder where the controls act synchronously. If what you said is the explanation then surely all 4 instruments would be doing this?

Please try it and you will see what I mean...

The reason I was assigning them all to midi channel 1 was to layer up the sounds... i.e. have all instruments play the same midi notes.

 

If you put 4 instruments in the same channel, they will all receive the same MIDI control messages. That's how channels work.

You need to look at how volume and pan are controlled in each of your instruments. There are 3 places to look:

Instrument options > controller
Amplifier modulation
Automation window

 

Sorry but I think you are misunderstanding me...

I'm not using any midi controller to change the volume on any of the instruments...

I am simply using the mouse to drag the volume slider across on each intrument.

So to recap..

Load Instrument 1 (from LIbrary A)
Load Instrument 2 (from Library A)
Load Instrument 3 (from Library B)
Load Instument 4 (from Library B)
Load Instrument 5 (from Library C)
Set all linstruments in rack to operate on midi channel 1

Move volume slider with mouse for Instrument 1
(Volume slider for Instrument 2 automatically moves to same position but Instruments 3,4,5 volume sliders remain static)

Move volume slider with mouse for Instrument 3
(Volume slider for Instrument 4 automatically moves to same position but Instruments 1,2,5 volume sliders remain static)

Move volume slider with mouse for Instrument 5
(No other volume sliders change)


What I'm trying to achieve is the last scenario for all 5 instruments.

 

Hi...

Surely one of you have come across this before?

 

I can't reproduce your problem. It doesn't even happen when K3 sends incoming CCs on the same MIDI channel as the instruments are assigned to.

 

Please watch this as evidence that it is doing what I'm suggesting!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h30_N-S2HTk

 

K2 doesn't do this (I don't have K3). If no-one has any suggestions, try unticking "Accept standard controllers..." in Instrument Options>Controllers. (Maybe in K3 the sliders actually send MIDI messages. If they do, maybe there's an option to turn this on and off somewhere.)

Nickie obviously has these unticked, otherwise it would.

 

Tried unticking this.... makes no difference!

 

No, they are ticked and I don't get the behaviour, abletondummy reports. With the exact same instruments, standalone and VST and no matter what I do. I have no idea why. This is with Kontakt 3.0.2.

The only obvious difference I can spot is the OS: you seem to be on Vista and I am on XP 32.

 

Nickie is right. Have a look at your automation windows - the sliders can certainly be controlled from here. (highlight a cc number in the upper window which has "volume" assigned to it, and (in K2) in the lower window you would see the name of your instrument under "instrument" and a dash under "group".)

See also
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/forum_de/showthread.php?t=71579

 

Hello,

please tick the "unwind automation IDs for additionally loaded instruments" in the main options/LoadImport tab.
This will resolve the problem.
You can check the behaviour on the Automation tab in the browser. At the moment, multiple instruments are assigned to the same automation ID. The mentioned option will prevent Kontakt from doing this.

regards,

Frank