Note length

Note Length from Controller!

bump!

 

I was really hoping to see the old style of note length when using one shots, and playing drums by hand, but no such love.

NI, it makes no sense for one shot hits to do anything but take up a single box in the grid. What has happened for me is the settings that are the most responsive also are terrible at leaving behind incredibly tiny slivers of notes, which don't represent the length of the sound played, don't represent any note relationships between each other (although now I can't count on using the trick of having a no-sound cuts eff any note by being set to the same cutoff group and no audible sound on it), because I cannot count on it being exactly 1/16th or whichever increment I've chosen for my sequence.

When playing unquantized, it virtually ensures doubled up notes, while the manual states that Maschine "cleans up doubled or tripled notes" after overlapping them in the grid layout.

I don't even care about adjusting the end length of my notes, but I reall don't need to do that, because when I hold an ADR or ADSR note, that's how long I wanted it to play for.

I don't get the design philosophy change with this functionality, and I'm not interested in the extra work this has inadvertently introduced into my workflow, and has slowed me down here and there. A small frustration, but one that seems easily accounted for, fixed, and "back to normal"

 

Also one more thing from the laptop screen addict faction: It would be great if one could drag not only the rightmost boundary of a note, but also the left. Great help in long events. There´s still enough space in the middle to accomodate the "move" function.

 

+1 for note length

 

Does someone know if Maschine is supposed to get note duration support in a (close) future update?

Or does the MPC (Renaissance) supports ALL BASIC functions of simple note editing?
If one of those "workstations" is able to do that I'll thinking of buying again - think the MPC is the better(more complete) choice?

 

same here

 

Maschine already supports note length duration, set your sample slot to ADSR or ADR and watch as you tap the pads. This has been part of then functionality for a long, long time.

 

So you really cant comprehend what he's asking for?

...:|

The thread is eight pages long so maybe you can assume that most (everyone) know about adsr and how they work ..

 

If what you mean is should the piano roll show the timed length of the sample played, ala dropping a wav file into the timeline in Ableton, I think I would rather not see that, in the piano roll view, that is. But gimme a third view, waveform view, or whatever you wanna call it, and I'm all over that.

My guess is that it will show up with time stretching, because they go very well together, and its a logical combination for real-time controller based editing.

So yeah, eight pages of yes it does, no it doesn't, and now another hat in the ring for visual-based time stretch and sample duration viewing. Someday we'll all be happy, right? LOL.

 

Wow Ben... not bad! Kraklnek is completely right, and even more. You really seem to ignore what people are writing and you're creating your own reality of what's going on. Unbelivable.

Is it too much for you if you just read the first starting post of this thread? It has only 2 sentences! Even it seems too much for you if you would just read the headline - because even this has nothing to do with your last answer!:S

So does anyone know if a future update will contain this request (and no Ben I don't write which request it is - I assume that everyone who is reading this thread knows what it is about. At least until now it worked very well)?

 

No offense man, but I've posted a bunch of times in this topic, and folks have different ideas of what note length duration and note length adjustment means to them for their workflow.

Prior to 1.6, I was happy with how the one shot system worked, nice, tight clean, the recent updates haven't rolled back that functionality. I'm no fan of dragging notes around to fix their end points, but I also think there's probably a better approach than just an enhanced version of the move event command from the hardware.

Yeah, from the controller there should be a way to change the end point of any note, be it a one shot, ADR or ADSR, but the fact is, Maschine supports note duration, which is the question asked a few posts back. The question wasn't does it support adjusting end points from the hardware. Nor was it why doesn't quantize on record or record/play doesn't work the way it used to work.

Lighten up man. Lots of questions, lots of possibilities. Its obviously an issue that needs to be addressed somehow (hopefully including a batch select and adjust function as well), I just hope NI doesn't skip it in the next update. The change to one shot mode has been irritating me for quite some time now, but I also feel like I'm just being nitpicky, since it sounds fine as long as there aren't doubled up notes (and the new functionality of the REC+ERASE overdub per sound entry is a good and handy quick fixer upper for my style of working).

 

Ben, you really need to think outside YOUR way of working..

 

+ 1000000

my hope for 2.0
...

 

+ 2000000

 

hey,
actually i just discovered TODAY (!), that there is a note length during step sequencer : hold the button GRID, at the bottom, and choose the note length ! and that's it

awesomse !

 

There has been a bit of confusion in this thread. For step sequencing, the note length is always defined by the grid setting for newly entered notes. You can tap a step to erase that note and enter a new one based on the grid value.

What is missing is a way to adjust the note length from the hardware via a knob. With the current structure, these types of edits are done with the volume, tempo, and swing knobs like velocity and position nudge etc. Unfortunately there are only 3 knobs and they are used up. Thing is, knobs 5-8 below the right LCD are free to add note length adjustment in step mode. shift + select + swing knob could also be used to adjust the length of selected notes when not in step mode.

 

^This

 

ha yea ^^^ THIS

 

Still needed!:S

 

This is getting ridiculous

Has there been any hint at all about an update to maschine?