Numark Mixdeck

See product details here, http://www.numark.com/mixdeck

 

Reading the quickstart guide, the mixer controls are not mappable to the Traktor version provided with it.

I'm not sure if Pro will provide a full map for all controls.

 

I spoke with Native Instruments tech support the other day and they said it works with Traktor Pro and the software included. Traktor Pro currently has the TSI for it and mappings already.

Since the unit already has a built in mixer, it probably doesn't need to control fader or volume controls in the Traktor. You can use it without software, so I'm thinking that each deck would just be mapped to a channel, and all audio handled through the hardware. So in theory you can have Deck A in Traktor mapped to left and a USB thumb drive mapped to a second. If the mixer became dedicated to the software, then you could not use CDs, thumb drives, etc in conjunction with Traktor. I would think each touchpad/controller would just have a deck mapped to it and used like an HID CD with an audio card built in. I would assume then we would have to map the audio settings in Traktor to each HID Controller.

UPS says Wednesday, so I'll def. play with it and let you know what the deal is.

Just my 2 cents.

 

I know it would work with Pro, but what about the FX controls, etc...

Are they considered mixer controls, or FX controls because the mixdeck has built-in FX.

Since there is no reverse play in Traktor yet it mentions the bleep/reverse is not assigned to anything.

That can probably be midi assigned, I just find it very weird that there is no midi controls on the mixer. But I do understand if it's a hardware mixer.

 

I believe you can control the software FX controls in Trakto Pro (Flanger etc), but the controls for Bass, Treble, Mid are on the hardware since it can be used on CD's and other inputs. Even turntables can be hooked up.

I think the bleep reverse are for CD's only.

I'm really anxious to see how the audio in Traktor needs to be set up.

I would think this product would be getting more interest than it is. I don't think people really grasp what it is yet. I think once vids up on youtube etc, it will sell out as it's sister the NS7 did last year.
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Now that I give it more thought, you could hook this up to Traktor Scratch Pro or Serato Live using timecoded cds if you wanted to.

iPod, Timecode, CD (w/ HID Support), external hard drive, thumb drive player in one. Potentially I could map the midi controls on the cd decks (which look like a pair of new NDX800s) in Serato Live if I wanted to.

Also, with the mixer not tied to the software, you would not need to switch to a back-up source if your laptop crashed.

 

SSL will only route audio through supported hardware, so you would still have to end up connecting the SL1 or SL3.

That's why it's bundled with Traktor instead, I was thinking it's also certified so you could use timecode with turntables if you chose to.

But I think for an all in one unit like this, timecode cd would be preferred.

 

It looks like the effects controls are part of the decks so I believe it would be midi mappable. If the mixer isn't mappable then Traktor Pro would be set up in external mode using the faders and cross fader on the mixer to control volume. I use Traktor Pro wih a Numark Omni controller in conjunction with a Behringer DDM 4000 and though the DDM 4000 is midi mappable I still use the Omni to control the midi and output the audio from each deck through the Omni soundcard to the DDM 4000. I ordered a mixdeck already so I'm interested to see how I will be able to incorporate everything together. Im wondering if its possible to use the decks to play cd and easily switch it to use it as a midi controller. I was about to buy a cd rack system for a backup until I saw the mixdeck and I had to get 1. If it all comes together I may route decks C&D to the Omni...this is gonna be good lol..... Is it Traktor Certified or just Traktor Ready?

 

I was thinking the same thing. I have the Numark Stealth and was thinking of getting a cheap CDJ as a backup, saw this and bought one also.

If you look at the PDF Documentation, there is a file that shows tha mappings in Traktor Pro. None of the mixer controls are mapped. I'm guessing it is officially supported by N.I. since there is a .tsi file for the Mixdeck using LE and Pro.

Let me know how you make out trying to have Omni and Mixdeck both controlling Traktor.

 

I don't think it will be too much of a pain to map decks C&D because I can just copy it as it is and change everything going to A deck to C deck and B deck to D deck. The real problem is where the audio is going to come from. How am I going to b able to control the audio from C&D seperately from decks A&B. Not sure how many stereo outputs the mixddeck will have. Only option may be to mono all channels otherwise I believe I would need an audio8 to get stereo on all 4. We'll have to see.

 

I think Traktor will only let you select one sound card for audio. If that's the case then you would need an audio8 to map all in stereo. The only other option would be to, as you said, not do stereo for your outputs.

On the other hand .....

If the sound card built in to the Mixdeck has 2 stereo channels one for Deck A and Deck B, then maybe the channel for the Monitor/Headphones could probably be assigned to the outputs for either Deck C or Deck D. Got me thinking ....

 

Exactly, Traktor Pro will only let you select 1 sound card so it will depend how many stereo outputs the mixdeck will have. It may be possible using the headphone out to route at least deck C to my DDM4000. Its not that important to me if it doesn't work, it would just be cool to have. Also still not sure if its Traktor certified or just Traktor ready. Im going to say its just Traktor ready, I don't think its high end enough to be certified. Even if it was, there is no upgrade to go from Traktor Pro to Traktor Scratch, you have to buy the whole thing all over again.
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there is a new video on youtube that has a tiny demo, the lights around the jog wheels move but not really in time but when the guy scratches thre is no drift...looks pretty good I must say, can't wait to get my hands on this baby.

 

My Mixdeck was a complete waste of money. It fails at every gig and support from Numark is non existent.

 

There appears to be a firmware update on the Numark website. Maybe it will fix some of your issues. I haven't installed it yet so cannot confirm any fixes. I'm loving my Mixdeck for controlling Traktor Pro.

 

Mixdeck Firmware Update

Here is the information on the Mixdeck Firmware Update. Looks like it is only for the CD and USB playback functions and not for Midi. Regardless it's nice to see that Numark is addressing some of the issues.

***** Release Notes for MixDeck CD Firmware version .034 *****


CHANGES SINCE VERSION .33


- Platter pitch bend sensitivity has been reduced to prevent ramping effect during beat matching and scratch push-off.


- Fixes issue where two matching default LOOP IN points caused mp3 titles to be left on deck after eject.



CHANGES SINCE VERSION .026


- Fixes Audio CD Track Naming issue where track titles were sometimes displayed for the previous/next track on the disc.


- Fixes issue where "CUE" and "CUE FORWARD" Scratch modes were still recognized after SCRATCH function was turned off. (paused state only)


- Adds the LOOP IN cue point recognition to all "CUE" Scratch modes. Platter Touch cueing in all "CUE" Scratch modes now corresponds to the last cue point triggered (LOOP or MASTER cue respectively).

Important: IF A LOOP IN POINT IS PRESENT, THE "CUE SCRATCH" MODE WILL NOT USE A NEW MASTER CUE POINT UNTIL THE MASTER CUE IS TRIGGERED (PLAY is pressed a second time). THE SETTING OF THE MASTER CUE DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A TRIGGER.


- Fixes an issue where extremely fast turning of the PARAMETER knob could cause deck instability (mp3 data only)

- Fixes minor issue where platter LED's would not light after changing from USB to CD source.