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OMG..... Reaktor 6 is here!

Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by sowari, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. jbwNI

    jbwNI NI Product Owner

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    As a person who started with and never built anything in Reaktor 5, only used factory and user creations, I have to say the new Blocks and interface seem a lot friendlier. Still having trouble getting a grasp on it though. :confused: Looking forward to what other people build. :D
     
  2. jbwNI

    jbwNI NI Product Owner

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    Also, have to agree about the mono. Would be nice for beginners to get blocks that weren't so rudimentary, though yes I realize sometimes simplicity is good too, and that quite a bit of complexity can be had with what is currently there.
     
  3. strav100

    strav100 New Member

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    Those Ampere modules are just waiting to be converted to blocks....
     
  4. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Would be nice yep. But at least with them as macros you could have that modular polyphonic...
     
  5. Soarer

    Soarer NI Product Owner

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    Thanks for the list herw :)
    No, I haven't udgraded yet and I'm not a builder, and now hearing that Blocks are only monophonic I don't see the point of upgrading at the moment (I own Rounds which is polyphonic). And what about effects?
    I Think I'll wait for it all to develop a bit...
     
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  6. ivarin

    ivarin NI Product Owner

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    wouldn't it be great to have Molekular effects among Blocks?
     
  7. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    No
     
  8. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    go to your online account and download it from there. you just need to reinstall KK.

    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/downloads/

    and you really need to install Live 64 bit. on my Mac, Reaktor 6 is not seen in my 32 bit version of Ableton - and that is the reason it is also not seen in Komplete Kontrol.

    sowari
     
  9. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    Single voice (Monophonic) synths can be as complex as you want. some of the Blocks Ens in the R6 Library are very complex and rich in their sound world.

    here is a pic for a Moog Modular system which is monophonic.

    System_35.jpg

    sowari
     
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  10. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but we're not doing hardware here. Polyphony should be an option. :)
     
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  11. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    i am sure this has been discussed and will continue to be discussed and hopefully in the future there will be Polyphonic Blocks.

    until then... i am doing virtual hardware, and enjoying it very much.

    sowari
     
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  12. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    True. Guess I'll stick to Ampere Modular which CAN be polyphonic within Reaktor, and isn't really that difficult to set up either. :p
     
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  13. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    and don't forget Herw's Modular uploads in the UL.

    Polyphony is not difficult to set up but it might be very difficult using the 'Blocks system'.

    sowari
     
  14. CakeAlexS

    CakeAlexS NI Product Owner

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    Well I've still barely covered the surface of Reaktor 5. I don't think there is any advantage in upgrading in this scenario? Reaktor 6 does not do anything much different from 5, just bolts on new features and the UI is a little more refined right?

    So I'll stick with 5 until I exhaust the possibilities with it or begin to realise its limitations. Next month I'm going to read the manual beginning to end.
     
  15. Exiannyc

    Exiannyc NI Product Owner

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    Just getting a handle on how to wire Blocks together is helping me understand better how to build Ampere ensembles, and how to do more with the wonderful Modular X ensembles and modules. I think Blocks were designed partly as a teaching tool. Not just an end in themselves. That aspect might benefit a lot of users.

    Christian

     
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  16. ruko.muzika

    ruko.muzika NI Product Owner

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    Is Reaktor 6 compatible with HiDPI displays like Retina on Mac?
     
  17. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    None of NI products are HiDPI compatible as of yet, AFAIK.
     
  18. Alien Machine

    Alien Machine NI Product Owner

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    Can't wait to start using this! :D:D:D
     
  19. herw

    herw NI Product Owner

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    I don't know why hiphopmoses dislikes my last postings. I am not a developer of REAKTOR. So i have no influence on decisions.

    I quote a posting on beta list from Vadim Zavalishin (i hope it is ok)

    If the DAW supports multicore processing of plugins on its own, then, as long as *each plugin instance* uses less than 100% of one core, there is no need for the plugin itself to support multicore, because *the host does the job for the plugin*. Doing so, only introduces the overhead. Roughly speaking. (More rigorously speaking, there can also be differences if the plugin takes only 50% of CPU, but that's more in the grey zone, with pros and cons and no clear answer, which way is better.)

    The reasons that plugins like Diva and Kontakt support multicore, is that they can get so heavy, that a single plugin instance doesn't fit on one core anymore.

    Of course one could also wish to build heavier Reaktor ensembles, which don't fit on one core. But the current Reaktor ensembles are not a valid example, since they should run on one core no problem (unless you have a weak CPU). As for running several of them simultaneously, see above.

    Anyway, as Georg pointed out, making multicore support in Reaktor is *way more complicated* than for a fixed-structure synth (or even a host). Depending on the extent of the desired multicore support in Reaktor, my rough guess is that we probably would've been able to implement one-to-several other major features during the same time investment. OTOH, only very few ensembles will really benefit from it. And you will need to bounce audio in your DAW project, because these cores will be "borrowed" from the other plugins and they won't have enough CPU to run.


    ciao herw
     
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  20. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, you can but you will need to pay for the update.

    and it is a separate Application so it won't write over Reaktor 5.

    sowari