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omnisphere 2 ---OH MY GOD !!!!!!!

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by djwaxxy, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. Rumdrum

    Rumdrum NI Product Owner

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    To Mystic38: Who made you the police of forum expressions?
     
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  2. Technician 9

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  3. BodhiG

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    I want itt
     
  4. tattootroy

    tattootroy NI Product Owner

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    refx nexus full bundle is still better
     
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  5. subsonicwave

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    Nexus is a toy compared to Omnisphere. And i do have Nexus and it is very capable, But it doesn't have anywhere near the depth of Omnisphere. If that is what you want. If you were to compare the two on the sheer number of included sounds then yes they are pretty close but for Sound design, Omnisphere wins hands down.
     
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  6. jpeg

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    most users dont care about infinite sound design possibilities the typical user wants go to sounds for song writing/production
     
  7. BodhiG

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    That's ******* stupid tho, sound design is essential... Why? Because you can create signature sounds, which will make you stand out... WHICH IS GOOD.
     
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  8. mezzurias

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    Signature sound is overrated. It's rare that anyone who isn't into sound design will even bother to twiddle the knobs on a synth, They just browse through patches. I'm talking about the biggest producers out there. They find a patch in Sylenth and call it a day. The Neptunes/Pharrell has a signature sound no doubt, but they just use a yamaha sound module for the most part and use/used the presets on almost everything. A lot of their signature sound comes from their production skill, arrangement, and mix not the instruments they use.

    DJ Mustard is hot right now and has a signature sound but he just uses Reason or Sylenth presets and an 808 soundpack and calls it a day. His sound comes from his sparse arrangement and whoever is mixing his tracks.

    I like sound design myself and make my own patches but don't mind just finding an inspiring sound to use if I happen to come across one. I like both ways of working.

    Song writers tend to want sounds to work with, producers like crafting their own sounds, both are no mutually exclusive.
     
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  9. BodhiG

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    REALLY depends on the genre we're talking about here though.... Without a signature sound in Wonk/Trench/Riddim/Dubstep/Neuro Funk/Glitch Hop you're not going to get featured on ANY label/promotion channel....

    If we're talking about Deep house/Trance/Hip Hop sure... Browse through some presets and do your thing... But then we might as well not even play in / draw in our notes and just buy MIDI packs for said genre... Use a random Lead/Pluck patch throw in a 808 kick and boom you're done.
     
  10. mezzurias

    mezzurias NI Product Owner

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    True. Definitely genre dependent. Though at this point some of the stuff sounds so damn similar they might as well be using presets. I like creating my own sounds though.
     
  11. b-righteous

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    There's about two billion presets out there for all the various synths. Top that off with the fact a preset will sound different in different arrangements with custom eq, filter and other basic settings. Using presets with basic tweaking will not stop you whatsoever from having a unique sound no matter what the genre. The unique sound comes more from your productions skills and not trying to copy cat xyz producer. That's like saying if you use standard acoustic/electric instruments and don't invent new instruments from scratch then you wont' sound original. o_O

    Sound design is hardly needed at all for production and has little to do with song creation or originality in that arena. It's fun and all but definitely not required.
     
  12. jpeg

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    are they really original tho?

    like I am sure the pad sound u made is similar other pad sounds; and the keyboard sound u made is similar to other keyboard sounds; and the strings and bass are similar to other strings and bass.


    because ur designing a sound to be somewhat like those aforementioned instruments.

    signature production does not come only from using sounds u designed; its more stylistic in ur artistic approach and artistic vision.
     
  13. beatlogik

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    So has anyone actually tried V2 yet? Please enlighten us all on the "truth" upgrade
     
  14. skinsfandc

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    Producers don't just find a patch and call it a day lol. Do your homework.
     
  15. skinsfandc

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    Tell that to drakes producer 40.
     
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  16. skinsfandc

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    Huh? That's what only sampling does to you. You need to experiment outside boom bap. You will then see a difference and importance in sound design.
     
  17. BodhiG

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    Well actually, some do...Avicii uses basic Sylenth1 presets that he did not create himself
     
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  18. blackphil

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    Every time Native Instruments have done a survey I've filled it out and always say "please make Massive so I can put my own samples in it" Iv'e even tweeted Noisia to ask about it seeing as they were having talks with N.I a while back. Hopefully now this new improved beast synth is out they'll listen also now it needs a granulator adding haha. The thing is Massive is a wavetable synth anyway so I can't imagine it's that hard for it to accept samples as a source, having said that I have no idea how to program so don't burn me to hard if it is really mind blowingly difficult to do, but worth the effort. Like businesses say it's more profitable to keep your customers than trying to make new ones, don't drive us away N.I.

    Also does anyone know if Omnisphere 2 has feedback and white noise like Massive seeing as thats the main thing I use it for?
     
  19. CakeAlexS

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    Most 'producers' would allow the keyboard player do it first. Of course the 'producer' may well be a keyboard player as well..
    Btw how people make their music is up to them. There are no rules.
     
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  20. CakeAlexS

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    I did some googling. I look at the term 'producer' as a person who deals with a collective of people and they wear a lot of hats. Wiki'ing up I believe what you may actually be refering to is 'bedroom producer'. I'm writing this so I can get this clear in my head..