OT: A sad day for Britain!

Not every party. There are still left wing parties out there. Green party for example (which i voted for) and SNP. The main problem IMO is the "first past the post" electoral system, where large swathes of the population are not fairly represented in parliment.

 

You're joking right....?

 

all the parties are controlled by international bankers period.

Check the leaders of any party and you will find the top advisers and/ or leaders are members of certain organisations like the royal institute of international affairs setup by the bankers.

The royal institute and its offshoot groups like the council of foreign relations advise (tell) all governments world wide which policies to implement;

these un-elected 3rd part NGO's work with left wing and right wing groups all over the world

the green party was setup by communists and the communist were funded by the same international bankers.

so there really is only one global agenda that all groups have already signed up for; and its all run behind the scenes by the same international bankers

 

SNP are way more left than Labour, and nothing like UKIP.

 

left wing /right wing its still the same bird

the problem is most people focus on the puppet show instead of the puppet masters, and its the same guys pulling the strings on both sides, ur being fooled.

 

I was just replying to the person that thought the SNP were like UKIP.
I vote, but I don't believe politicians are in charge of what happens in the world. The real power lies elsewhere, and has for long time now.

 

So no, you're mistaken.

 

Well thats certainly an opinion, all be it a very cynical one. The fact that you include smaller left wing parties in that political summary indicates you don't really have any understanding of their ideology and policies.

I would suggest checking out anotherangryvoice and positivemoney. It should make you realise that there are political movements that are campaigning against the "neo-liberal" status quo.

 

if PR was the system in this country then UKIP would have go a large number of seats.

sowari

 

their background shows that this was not always the case:

'The SNP was formed through the merger of the centre-left National Party of Scotland (NPS) and the centre-right Scottish Party.[34]'

sowari

 

However they started, they are very much a left wing party now. Not quite as left as Green, but, like Dreddiknight said, very much more so than Labour.

 

You base your opinion off hope and on how you would like; and ignore facts, and that is your choice to choose ignorance as this is what most people who just want to enjoy life and have a good time choose.

But what I have stated is not my opinion this is what people within the the organisations of global control have written about at great length, they have a business plan/mandate for the direction of the world and they don't leave this up to public choice

See the quotes from top presidential adviser below:


“The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England [and] believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.” (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World in Our Time, p. 951. 1966.)


“There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, p. 950. 1964.)

“The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.” (Georgetown University Professor Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, p. 324. 1966.)

 

sure but then so were the Liberal Democrats before the 2010 election and then they end up jumping into bed with the Tories.

what i am saying is you can't trust any politician, and the SNP moved to the left just to grab the votes to defeat the Labour party.

sowari

 

I'm not denying that in relation to large political parties. But you included the smaller parites too. But the fact is, the ideas that you talk about are not unknown and there are plently of political organisations and movements that are activley fighting against it.

You also have to remember that neo-liberalism has only been around since the 80's and was introduced by the far right wing parties of the time (Thatcher and Regan). It's something that can be changed.

 

At least these changes were (partly) motivated by what the people wanted.

 

clearly people though that the Lib Dems would form a coalition with the Labour Party.

anyway, after seeing what happened yesterday, it clear that loads of people in the UK are stupid.

sowari

 

And that's democracy for you...

 

the supposedly small not for profit parties; that you think are fighting the power have huge operational budgets from the same corporate sponsors (who are owned by international bankers)

they are controlled opposition; the people that run the world dont wait for natural opposition to spring up and over throw them; they co-opt grass roots movements and setup grass roots movements with their own people as the leaders to make sure they do not impact the ruling system.

This is how real opposition is neutralized; Ron Paul was an example of this, its like the pied piper all those swept up in the need for real change are lead to a dead end.

 

I do not usually comment about politics (since imo they are all crooks and megalomaniacs), HOWEVER

The loss of the NHS will be the worst disaster for the UK i can imagine.. as a Brit, living in the USA for 20+ years the health care here (USA) just plain sucks balls. There is no CARE, simply costs.. add to that the excruciating red tape and admin the individual needs to pursue to engage in the most simplest of things...

The USA...the "model" of private, efficient health "care" spends THREE times the amount that the UK does... for a woefully inadequate level of care that is extraordinarily complex for the individual to manage.

spending > source : http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.PCAP

 

it doesnt matter who you vote for the government wins