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OT: A sad day for Britain!

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by puzzlefactory, May 8, 2015.

  1. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    lol


    you dont know much about the SNP....theyre pro europe and left of labour...dont let the nationalist tag fool you

    now if westminster votes to leave europe the snp will have a reason to bring back the referendum, and this time it wont be a yes vote I bet
     
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  2. djwaxxy

    djwaxxy NI Product Owner

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    im glad the libdems are over they showed there true colours when they joined the conservatives and they were sharing the same ideas and agreeing too the samethings and couldn't wait to brak up and sell of parts of the country and government as quick as they could too make themselves and there friends very very rich.

    one thing I never realised up until a few days ago was if you don't vote you get logged as you support the ruling party and your vote gets classed as a yes vote.my mate told me this a few days ago and hes a candidate for the weed party I said your wrong that cant be right so he said go check with your polling station so I did and they told me yes if you don't vote you do get classed as you agree and support conservatives so I quickly voted.
    apparently the voting laws changed awhile ago that's why theres shock winners like last night.
     
  3. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    good way to get you to vote though not voting isnt counted, your apathy can be a sign you agree with the ruling party but your "none" vote isnt counted as a vote...for anyone
     
  4. CakeAlexS

    CakeAlexS NI Product Owner

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    Hi

    I would like to know how I delete the conservatives. Do I hold down the shift button and press the jog wheel?
    I would also like to know how to quanize UKIP that they all eventually merge into one note which I can eventually delete.

    Many thanks..
     
  5. skizm

    skizm Forum Member

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    Not quite. The akai "advanced" keyboard can only do 8 layers. Kontrol S keyboards have unlimited layers.
     
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  6. muleskinner

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    Or, in the case of the SNP, relatively small numbers of people are vastly overly-represented in government.

    And if we had PR (which I agree with in principle) UKIP would, unfortunately, be doing rather well.

    At the end of the day the real 'problem' is the way people voted. People are stupid and all the parties left of centre split the vote by fighting amongst themselves. Gotta love democracy...
     
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  7. balletryne

    balletryne NI Product Owner

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    Dont want to change topic/focus of this thread, but just want to reply on this one.
    I dont think you got my point.. Im talking about changing a monetary system. Where the essence of definition of what money actually is. What wealth might be. What growth equals. If you try to understand what Im saying while you still have a mindset anchored within todays monetary system, then I guess it would be diffucult.

    The square we are living within, with set possibilities and therefore a set of meaningful thoughts, will always be our limitations. It will also therefore put a limit on how far we might progress. When people say think outside the box, some really mean it. Put aside all established "rules" and try to start thinking how would you organize a society. What would you create, how and why. How would the young be taught, and why. In that world you imagine, would it be a need for nations? Borders? Why? Really, why? Where does greed come from? Why? Really, why?

    I could go on and on. And I know Im an easy target for replies. Ofcourse. Because what Im talking about is almost an illusion. But, I dont believe in the social order/politics that you try to choose among. Let my thougts be looked upon as a madmans diary. Its OK. I only plant a seed, I dont tell you what to think. I dont even tell you to water my seed. But be sure, I will. In my way. No force.
     
  8. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    i don't condone this at all and this was probably the work of one person not "the left"

    anyway within hours of winning the election the Tories have announced cuts to a scheme which helps disabled people get back to work

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-disabled-access-to-work-scheme-10237191.html

    of course people who voted for the Tories are more concerned with the promise not to increase taxes no matter what happens and clearly the Tories way to keep this promise, is to make even more cuts.

    so expect cuts to the defence budget, the police, support for the poor and disabled etc, etc.

    sowari
     
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  9. puzzlefactory

    puzzlefactory NI Product Owner

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    I think what's much more worrying is their determination to complete the TTIP. Which will basically spell out the end of the NHS and we will be forced to adopt the American "insurance" model of health care (which is quite frankly an appalling system).

    But to be fair, Labour were all for TTIP too...
     
  10. dreddiknight

    dreddiknight NI Product Owner

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    Don't believe the hype.... Having worked with, and advocated for many people with disabilities, and mental health issues like depression, I couldn't disagree with that more. Most do not get benefits they are actually entitled to, and are not living comfortable, happy lives. The Tory focus on these areas, is simple scape-goating.
    A far greater amount of revenue is lost through tax loopholes, tax dodging and fraud. But white collar crime has never been a focus of any modern government... Wonder why??
     
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  11. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    the point is there are companies like Amazon and Apple et al, who are getting away with not paying taxes from profits made from sales in the UK.

    you will find that these and other companies owe much more money than the people you mention. and yes, the Tories refuse to insist that the big companies pay their taxes.

    why is that?

    and these companies would actually bring more money into economy than chasing the people that you mention.

    sowari
     
  12. puzzlefactory

    puzzlefactory NI Product Owner

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    Not only have Tories NOT done anything to chase the taxes owed by large international companies, they've actually introduced NEW loopholes for large corporations to exploit.
     
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  13. jpeg

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    no disrespect as obviously i dont know the specifics of ur situation

    but i have known peeps that get signed off for depression to look for a new job

    i feel like as a man if u aint physically sick; should u not just man up and tuff it out? rather than get signed off

    back in the day men just handled biz; but now men are given the option to be a lil biitch

    u said urself u may be depressed but how is staying at home going to resolve ****?

    plus u got mates that use the doctor sign off as a hustle, its personal choice i aint mad either way, but just an observation
     
  14. Paulocks

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    I am Scottish and delighted that SNP routed everyone here, although it is a terrible travesty that the tories got in. But for us it may provide the necessary conditions for us to seperate from the union that has held us back. And before any one tries to say this is untrue there is a simple fact..... the uk is about the 30th wealthiest country in the world, as an independent nation scotland would be about 10th. The cuts may seem unfair in the rest of britain but to the Scots they are totally unjustified and ridiculously unfair.
     
  15. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    was told i could not get an appointment for a week.

    sorry - couldn't resist :p

    time to make some music that is the only cure.

    sowari
     
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  16. muleskinner

    muleskinner Forum Member

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    was told to go to A&E!
     
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  17. tattootroy

    tattootroy NI Product Owner

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    If labour had won they would have gave every Uk citizen free internet, free macbook pro 13, free maschine studio and free drum samples.
    Imagine that, beats chumping from all angles in the country. we would be partying all day and night.
    Too bad its all gone, maybe next time in 6 years:(.
    Please vote labour in 6 years time. add it to your phone calendar
     
  18. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    If u hate the babylon system how can you say tax avoidance is wrong?

    income tax is wrong imo, its basically protection money ur paying the mafia not to mess with u

    but let the thread stay it aint everyday we speak on this and we should not be scared to discuss these topics as its good to apply some col logic to the mechanics of how government work so we can see where the solutions are
     
  19. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    good for u as far as getting ur own business

    but again the fact that our society thinks it normal to go to the doctor for depression is insane

    how can chemicals made from oil , plastic and petrol be a health solution?

    people want a feel good quick fix but depression must be linked to diet and and lifestyle, rather than just take a happy pill.

    going to doctors for depression is no different than going to your local drug dealer, temporary feel good but it can neva solve the underlying cause.
     
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  20. jpeg

    jpeg Forum Member

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    this is true but lotta peeps use outer success and keeping busy externally to avoid the deeper inner work, or they dont want the time to be by themselves and reflect on self

    like some people always busy or got the radio or tv on or doing this and that to escape the root cause of what is troubling them;

    sometimes doing more aint the answer so we dont know what issue drove robbin williams or ur friend.