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OT: Akai "We will change the way you make music forever"

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by JAHROME, Jan 5, 2012.

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  1. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    I don't really care if or why people buy MPCs. I buy them because I like the work flow and nothing else on the market matches what it gives me. No hardware sampling workstation matches the MPC 5000 outside of the MPC 4000.

    Honestly, you don't seem very knowledgable when it comes to software based products. When you buy any Native Instrument product and install it on your computer, the first thing it does is look for any available OS update. I just purchased Motu's Mach Five 3. After installation, the first thing it did was to look for an OS update. When I purchased a new computer..the first thing it did was look for and install Window's update. The first thing I did before I started using my MPC 5000 was to check if there was an OS update for it....and new OS was ready for download. When I get the MPC Ren..what is the first thing I am going to do? Check to see if there is an OS update. lol

    So if I were you, I would probably avoid these new MPCs. Keep using what you are using. No one is forcing you or trying to convince you to buy one. I am as excited now as I was when I heard months ago that a new MPC was being released.
     
  2. yaren

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    man come on,,, a more robust controller? what the hell do you do to your controller?

    the controller is fine, there is no need to make it hardcore titanium zanked gorren...

    we didnt even need a mikro... mikro for what?
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    id pay 2g even...

    if you are serious about gear you would even pay more... the price mpcs have been going at for many many years..
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    man i dont know why u care so much about the vst nonsense...

    think of all the mpcs and think of all the tracks made with them...

    if u serious about gear u dont use ****ing vsts... thats all i have to say...

    software is the poor mans way
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    stop talking such nonsense man im dead set sick of u and ur crap...

    that thing works realtime.. and if they are using that on the mpc its going to do even better...
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    thats because the beat thang is basically a ASRX rip off... it should be thrown in the bin, its a heap of crap... ASRX would smash it in 1 second
     
  3. jones_maschine

    jones_maschine Forum Member

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    Ways to 'change the way you make music forever' -

    Take up piano lessons/music theory
    Utilise and learn inside out what you already have
    Spend less time on the internet and forums and invest it in music production

    Another midi controller wont 'change the way you make music forever'
     
  4. Upright

    Upright NI Product Owner

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    this!
     
  5. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    for what? for $150 cheaper :)
     
  6. noiserot

    noiserot Forum Member

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    Stop talking out your ass. Akai already admitted it'll only work offline.
     
  7. Komplexed

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    This is the dumbest **** I've ever heard in my life... I mean dude, are you serious?
    Do you know how many filthy rich music producers create mega hits daily with nothing but software? The Underdogs use nothing but Logic and soft synths and they've done that for the last decade... Bryan Michael Cox uses Logic and soft synths on a regular basis... True he is an MPC guy, but he's the type that likes to switch the workflow up from time to time... But as of late all of the **** he's been doing has been in Logic... Get your mind right amigo.. This isnt about money... It's about what works best for individuals...
     
  8. Upright

    Upright NI Product Owner

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    You gotta be kidding me...
     
  9. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    subscribed...lol
     
  10. Phantom Lamb

    Phantom Lamb NI Product Owner

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    I don't know, I mean, I only own the regular Maschine controller. As far as workflow goes, are you giving up a lot with the Mikro? I just feel like instead of developing that, NI could have done more to fix apparent issues on the regular controller.
     
  11. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    sorry I dont agree...I had no intention of buying Maschine until the Mikro came out. I dont need it for live work, all my automation is done by mouse, I wanted the software and pads. For drum software at over $500 it didnt interest me too much. Im not poor (yet lol) but I dont like paying for features I dont need.

    its the same size as my macbook pro so the portability made sense too as I travel a lot. Im sure Im not the only one that was attracted to it for these reasons
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    also Im not sure how many resources would have been diverted from Maschines development to produce Mikro, its the same software and other than some menu restrictions its close to being the same controller...

    Id say for all the features to be implemented that owners want you are looking at a software overhaul rather than just an update, and I doubt Mikros production wouldve halted that
     
  12. yaren

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    150 dollars is nothing,

    with too many silly products you never go far.. cant take seriously...

    its also smaller and has less ability to smash out what you want.. not to mention you will be looking at that computer screen a hell lot more lol
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    what do you think?
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    excuse me i cant read what you are writing noiserot... have a tissue !
     
  13. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Several years ago, Native Instruments announced Maschine will be updated to provide timestretching and pitchshifting. As of 1.7 this hasn't happened.

    Several weeks ago, Akai announced the MPC Ren/Studio will ship with timestretch and pitchshifting when they are released this Summer.

    Native Instrument's indicated their timestretch/pitch shifting will be in realtime but no release date for this function. Akai said their timestretching/pitchshifting will be an offline process when the MPC Ren/Studio ships and implied they may add realtime procesing in a OS update.
     
  14. kcearl

    kcearl NI Product Owner

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    lol what?

    the pads are the same size so "smashing" is exactly the same...and again some of us bought it to work with a computer, not in place off..

    $150 isnt a great deal to some, it meant four expansion packs in place of buttons and two screen I didnt need...purrfect

    by all means your opinions important to you...but you dont speak for everyone an' I bet Mikro is selling pretty well for a silly product

    :cool:
     
  15. noiserot

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    No need to fret. NI said it will be implemented when it's ready:

    "Timestretching is on our development roadmap, as a real-time feature, not just an offline process in the sample editor. Regarding the "when" - when it's ready"
    http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showpost.php?p=697757&postcount=12
     
  16. saintjoe

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    To me, that implies we could see both offline and a real-time option in Maschine at some point, at least that's what I got from it when they wrote that. They at least should do something offline while working on the "realtime" option in my opinion.
     
  17. yaren

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    well thats good for you then. you can pat yourself on the back son!
    go to the top!
     
  18. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    lol

    I said that already. My point is that Maschine has been available for several years and it still doesn't have basic features found in samplers since the 90s.
     
  19. lattridge

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    Several years?

    I'm quite new to these forums. However you have already given me the impression you are a bit of a tool.
     
  20. JAHROME

    JAHROME NI Product Owner

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    Yes that is correct. Maschine has been out for a few years now. Timestretching and pitchshifting can be found in nearly all software samplers....and most hardware samplers since the late 90s. Only a "tool" would debate facts. You may want to skip this thread (while its still open) if you easily catch feelings.
     
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