perfect gliss DP and Symphobia (K4)

Hi All,

Two inter-related questions. The basic one is I'm trying to create a nice, slightly "lazy" string gliss partially filling in a minor 3rd (think of the cello writing from George Martin Beatles arrangements). I'm using some basic "string ensemble sustained" patches from Symphobia within Kontakt v. 4.23 as a plugin in DP 7.24.

1. No matter what I do - using the mod wheel or drawing it in as CC, drawing it as a striaght line, a curve, freehand - I don't like the sound. It sounds fake and electronic, really obvious. Anybody have any ideas of what I could/should do that would make it sound more convincing?

2. As a side note, if you are familiar with Symphobia, I was previously using under String Ensembles -->05 StrEns sustain soft DYN as my patch. Nice, soft, simple string sound. I'll be damned if the pitch bend isn't up AND down simultaneously! Yeah, the PB creates a cool mirroring effect of sliding up and down at the same time. Not only that: I can't see anything that is specifically set for pitch bend let alone having it happen up and down. Alas, I want just a simple short gliss up. Am I missing something under instrument options etc.? I also wonder if the double gliss is simply built into that patch - I have no idea why. Seems like a weird default. I like having the option of it mirroring, but that shouldn't be hardwired into it.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

Joel

 

To answer #1, that's the nature of working with samples. If you need that to sound realistic, you need strings that are actually sampled that way.

 

David!

How delightful to hear from you (I knew of you from your motu-mac days). Wow. Maybe I shouldn't have put in the adjective "perfect gliss" - I guess I meant something that sounded realistic. I certainly know from experience this is the case with trills, or horn rips - you need the samples and that's that. I guess I thought this wasn't in that category and wouldn't present such a challenge. I'll keep trying (someone on motu-mac suggested a sort of "time compressed chromatic scale route" that I'll check out). Maybe I'll try another string sound, maybe I have to look around for a sample set that has this - do you know of any? - but I'm only trying to move by (less than) a minor 3rd and over a bit less time than 2 8th notes (in slow 12/8) - so it's not like a huge, slow exposed octave gliss over a measure. I know I've certainly done this with other instruments (elec. gtr and, I thought, strings).

I'm going to contact Symphobia about the later "mirrored" gliss. It's too weird. I'm beginning to think it's a feature, not a bug.

If you have any suggestions for string samples please send them along!

Again, thanks for the reply!