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Perplexing issue with song sections

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by JRGariano, Jul 11, 2021.

  1. JRGariano

    JRGariano NI Product Owner

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    I'm using Maschine+ in standalone mode. I have two scenes, and I've created two section, the first section calls the first scene, and the second section calls the second scene. Whatever section I put first on the song timelines, its scene keeps playing even after the playhead proceeds past the end of that section and into the next section. In trying to debug the issue, I put just a single section in the song and turned off looping, and still, after it gets past the end of that one section, the pattern for that section keeps playing repeatedly even though the playhead has extended past the end of the section is into the nothing area of the song.

    I'm totally stumped at why this is happening. I'm composing a song and I want to be able to hear the two sections in sequence but am stuck on this problem. Can anyone tell me what might be going on that is preventing one section from stopping and the next section from starting in song mode?
     
  2. Richard Parker

    Richard Parker NI Product Owner

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    The only explanation I can think of is that you are playing a sample that's longer than your section. Once you trigger that sample in one-shot mode, it will play the whole sample, spilling on top of the following section. You can either edit the end point of the sample or use it in ADSR mode, so you can adjust its length.
     
  3. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    My guess would be you're in Ideas Mode which isn't linear therefore never stops.
    Press the Ideas/Song button and hold shift to change to "Song", confirm if the playhead is indeed moving past any Scenes/Sections into empty space.
     
  4. JRGariano

    JRGariano NI Product Owner

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    Thanks to both of you for the response. To Richard, it's not a sample; I've loaded it as an audio plug in. And to D-One, I'm clearly in song mode, and the initial scene keeps playing after it gets into empty space on the timeline.

    I submitted a ticket with support and they asked me to send them the project file so they can investigate. It's either something I did wrong that's not obvious, or perhaps I've encountered a bug in Maschine+. I'll post back to this thread what I learn from NI Support.
     
  5. JRGariano

    JRGariano NI Product Owner

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    So support has been stumped on the problem for a while now. They said they are able to reproduce it in the Maschine 2 software. But after waiting on them I stumbled across a solution. I had the time signature set in 6/8, and when I changed it to 3/4 everything started working right again. In hindsight, it appears that in 6/8 each pattern with the audio plugin loaded was being played twice before the next section would play. I'm not sure if that's a bug in Maschine or expected behavior given my configuration. This also explains why the previous song I made with Maschine+ didn't have this problem, since that one was in 4/4.
     
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  6. oli@bass

    oli@bass NI Product Owner

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    Thank you for reporting your solution!

    IMO there should be no difference in playback between 6/8 and 3/4, therefore I‘d consider this a bug.