Pioneer ddj sz

Has any one seen the new pioneer ddi sz??



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LysLkt6SOuA

it looks amazing and i hope to god this could be mapped to traktor.

I love traktor and prefer it over the clunky feeling serato, but mann these guys are getting some awesome controllers from pioneer.

Come on native what's going on here?

love native software and most of the hardware but the s2 and s4 just don't cut it.

ddj sz + traktor = heaven!!

 

Jupp, it's sweet.
Yes, it will be mappable to Traktor.
No, the integration will not be perfect or in any way seamless.
Yes, NI is more and more interested in selling their own hardware.
Yes, they have stopped pretty much all of their efforts in cooperating with external hardware providers.
No, nobody knows if NI will announce a similar mixer/controller for Traktor.

Yes, you may be very disappointed and believe NI is doomed.
No, NI does not care.
No, I'm not bitter about this.
Yes, it's their business strategy and their decision.
No, I do not particularly like it and would wish for the situation to be otherwise.

Yes, that's pretty much it.

 

Truth.

 

hahaha - pretty much sums it up ^^

 

don't get me wrong i don't think ni is doomed in anyway. They are leading the way with traktor software and music production software, but the s2 and s4 just don't cut it. i love my x1 and audio 10 is very well made and never missed a beat. pioneer just have magic fingers when it comes to designing controllers or full decks and that's why they are industry standard.

 

Pioneer are not the "industry standard" when it comes to controllers, far from it.
What they are attempting to do is make everyone think that controllers should follow the same form as CDJ's of which they are the "industry standard". It's a clever move on their part but only if you love the CDJ format and want to use a controller that mimics a CDJ.

Personally, I dislike CDJ's so I'm not interested in the SZ. Yeah it is impressive as a piece of kit, it has a great feature set but If I wanted to use something that resembled and functioned like CDJ's I'd get CDJ's.

I know the SZ is touted as the best of both worlds, CDJ like functionality on a midi controller but it's like those keyboards that you play like a you would hold a guitar. If I wanted to play keyboards I'd get keyboard and if I wanted to play guitar I'd buy a guitar.

 

I wouldn't say they're that far off. The DDJ series seems to be very popular at the moment.

 

...although I have never seen one in a club or bar yet I have seen countless S4's, S2's, VCI100's, not just in my city but anywhere that I have been around the UK.

Are they becoming more popular? Yeah I guess so, from what I hear, and I am sure they will become even more so in the future but for now, as I said they are far from the industry standard.

Karlos

 

Well the S2 and S4 are several years old, whereas the newer DDJ series has mostly been released in 2013. S2s and S4s certainly aren't a standard either.

 

I accept that the DDJ series is newer hence that's why I am not seeing any. I wouldn't say that any controller is "industry standard" in fact I mentioned this on DJTT. The idea that a controller becomes the "industry standard" is anathema to my view on 'controllerism' (odd word). The very nature of controllers and them fitting specific user requirements means an industry standard would be hard to achieve.

I totally expect DJ's that prefer the workflow and layout of CDJ's to fawn over the SZ but for those that prefer personal mapping, modular setups or software specific controllers (Traktor obvs), they may be less drawn to the SZ.

I'd say at high street club level the S4 is as near to "standard" as you can get. It is by far the most commonly used controller I have seen. There are at least 5 in use at prominent residencies in my city although I think I might be the only DJ that has gigged to any extent with an S2.

 

I definitely agree to that.. I'm a big fan of the modular controller setup, and the heavy big DDJs completely go against that.. But then again so does the S2/S4, to a lesser extent.

 

absolutely.

yeah. i rarely see controller only setups, because i'm mainly in hiphop circles (be it dj or guest), so a DVS setup with turntables is da thang. however, when i'm seeing controllers (in a controller only setup), then usually the s4. i have actually never seen a pio controller in the wild.
also regarding the add-on controllers, i see mainly the x1, only rarely dicers in the last time.

 

I think that NI is positioning itself for a buy-out. They are putting more efforts in their music production domain; knowing that the community is moving more and more toward video mixing. I think that in-time Serato would definitely purchase NI as a whole or the music mixing domain and incorporate video into the Traktor software. Clearly, Traktor with its remix decks is a much better software than Serato but the lack of video play-back will be its doom.

 

Serato has no chance of buying NI "as a whole".

 

I can't agree nor disagree because I do not know Traktor strategy or neither of them financial position.

 

LOL!!! that, for sure, will not happen.

for a start: traktor |= NI.

 

Great reply kallekenkel rofl

 

There is now a traktor map for the ddj sz

https://maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/2629

this guy deserves a medal!

on saturday just gone i played out live doing a 6 hour set on this map with the ddi sz with no drop outs or problems.

on sunday i did a 2 hour back to back with me friend also with no problems.

i was using traktor on side a and he was using serato on side b.

pure awesome

 

NI would never sell out but i do believe they are working on coming out with a much bigger and better controller.for me,its traktor all the way.