Solved Pitch adjustments with notes held of micro-tuning blocks / macros

Hey guys,

I have seen quite a few blocks / macros both old and new which allow for the tuning of individual notes within a scale, which are great, but none of them that I've seen allow for the pitch adjustment to function properly with more than one note held; while they tune the individual notes the results with more than one note held are most undesirable. This would be great to resolve as it would enable the user to hear the tuning taking place in the context of a chord etc while all notes are held, rather than having to press and depress the keys every time an adjustment is made.

I have fiddled around with existing macros but with no success, any ideas for a workaround on this? I've included 3 examples all with the same problem.

Many thanks for your time.

Chris.

 

I can't open your macro because I'm on an old version of reaktor 5.
but I have done this micro tuning before.
create an event table of 12x1 with value range of -1,1 no interpolation
this is you micro tuning, you can draw your value inside.
then you do the modulo 12 of the pitch, that gives you the x value to read, add this value to your pitch, and voila

 

This is the mother of all by Noel Burgess 13 years ago.
https://www.native-instruments.com/de/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/2971/
Please obey my comment to fix the bug in Microtune 1024.

 

Hey guys thanks for your replies.

Toto le robot : I understand what you have suggested, but the problem remains that with multiple notes held it does not function properly. Here is the link to one of the examples I mentioned, maybe you can open it and see the problem I'm trying to describe.
https://www.native-instruments.com/de/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/393/

Paule : That is indeed an excellent tuning device, one which I often use. But I am now trying to enable manual tuning of individual notes as described :

But, with more than one note held it does not function properly. Is there a way round this?
https://www.native-instruments.com/de/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/393/

Thanks again

 

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/11413/


This has exactly the same problem

 

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/9597/

Same problem...

 

what do you mean with multiple notes held? like a chord? if your macro is polyphonic it will work.

 

For example, in this instance :


https://www.native-instruments.com/de/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/393/

Everything is polyphonic and voices are sounding simultaneously as expected. Now, you hold the notes C and G down, whilst they are both held you adjust the pitch of the G; the result should be the C continuing to sound as it is but with the G changing as you adjust it's pitch. This does not happen and I can't work out how to solve it. Is it something to do with all the values being merged? Obviously adding them is also incorrect so the answer remains a mystery.

 

Perhaps this might help illustrate :
The "Correct" file is, unsurprisingly, how it should sound.
The "Incorrect" file is how it sounds at the moment.

 

this one works at home, you draw the tuning in the table , you have to press again the key you are tuning to hear the result

 

It's getting closer, thanks for your patience. I tried your suggestion of the value module..it improves the situation but adjustments still cannot be heard with notes held...which is precisely the problem I'm trying to solve. In the example(s) we have looked at, real-time adjustments can only be heard with a single note held.

I like your alternative of drawing the values in that's nice , but again the tuning cannot be heard with notes held. I think for a tuning device to be used to it's full potential, the adjustments really need to be heard in the context of chords etc with notes held. Is there no way to achieve this?

 

yes, instead of drawing put a merge module before the r and connect the note pitch, add 2 knobs, one (0..11 stepsize 1) connected (in this order) to wx to choose the note you want to tune then another one (-1..1 stepsize 0,01 or less) connercted to W then merge of R, it should do the trick.

 

This saved with Reaktor 5.5 lower. In R6 it looks ugly. If you own R5.9.4 load with this version and save again. Now open in R6 and the graphics are right.

 

This is in Block format

 

Thanks Paule, good to have

toto le robot : Connected like this?

 

yes, but you tell me if it works

 

Unfortunately not, the WriteY knob does nothing

 

oups sorry, I'm used to audio table, plug the write y in the in input and set the write y to -1,1 stepsize as you want and mouse step the same

 

toto le robot thanks for that!



Can the Cents dial be snapped to the value of the selected note? For example, in the top screenshot, if the slider at the bottom is moved from C to C# can the cents dial be made to snap to the (-1) value it is currently at?

I ask this because at the moment, if it is now moved from C to C# and adjusted...instead of rising up from the -1 it obviously jumps straight to the 0 given to it by the dial.

 

yes, try this, I drawed it because I'm too hangover the button rec is just an on/off so that you can move the knob to a more suitable position.
I didn't do all the macro, only the parts that have change