Please add VST3 thanks you!

Please add VST3 thank you!


I'm surprise that Native Instruments haven't already?
You are leader on all other kind of technology together with SOFTTUBE so its strange that you limp in this matter?
Why haven't you add VST3 compatibility already? You can't say its no point only Cubase / Nuendo support it even though that should be enough of reasons.

AAX support only Pro Tools 11 and that you have no problem to add. If I'm not mistaken there are more users on Cubase / Nuendo / Studio One, FL Studio + more...platforms that do support VST3 already then it are users on Pro Tools 11 or Pro Tools 10.


As for today more and more DAWs support VST3 like Studio One etc. So its not just Cubase and Nuendo anymore.


Thanks in advance!


Best Regards
Freddie

 

+1 VST3 support

 

Freddie: how many forums are you going to post this in? Once would be sufficient I would think.

 

All!

All are different instruments, so different specific feature request.
I want all my Native Instruments-plugins to be in VST3. Not just Absynth.


Best Regards
Freddie

 

It's not a different feature request for each plugin. Besides most forums have rules against posting the same message in different subforums.

 

Why do you care Jack? You are on Pro Tools, and you got your new AAX version already so move on...


I just kindly ask if NI can update all your VST2.4 plugins so it support VST3, VST 3.5.2 also, thank you!
That's all!

I don't know but as far as I know it shouldn't be so hard to do? Update to AAX support takes much more work compare to adding a VST3 version.

They should be able to compile a VST3 version instead of VST 2.4 version in the "VST Audio Plug-Ins SDK" (Version 3.5.2)
http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/developer.html


Instead of compile a VST2.4 you select VST3.5 version instead. That's it. I don't know why you need to be so stubborn against it?
What's wrong with options? Waves and many other software companies get it. VST3 is here to stay, so move on...!



Best Regards
Freddie

 

You're wrong on at one point Freddie: we do NOT have the new aax 64 bit version.

Compiling for a new version of anything is not as simple as running code through an SDK. Have you ever written code? I have and it isn't easy.

But back to the original thing - most forums have rules against posting the same message in different subforums and what you're asking for is the same thing in all NI products which is okay but you only need to post it once in one forum. And if you haven't realized NI people don't read this forum except on the rare occasion. So what you're writing isn't getting to the right eyeballs (and brains).

PS: Like I said in another post of yours you remind me of the Freddie H that used to post over in the Cakewalk Sonar forums - maybe good ideas but wrong execution.

 

Yes you have! All NI except for Guitar Rig has been updated now to AAX x64 support.
Rest of us, we still don't have our VST3 version yet...after 5 years of waiting....

Host that support:
AAX2 x64= only Pro tools 11!

Host that support VST3= Cubase, Nuendo, STUDIO ONE, SONAR X3, FL STUDIO, Vienna Ensemble, Wavelab, Audition, Bitwig Studio, N Track Studio, Sequel, V-raxtor, VST Host, SAVI-Host, Menu Magic, AudioFinder, Plugin Update,SampleRobot Virtual Cable, Automap..

more to come... (Reaper); (Samplitude);.....


You were saying....



Best Regards
Freddie

 

VST3 hosts still utilize VST2, so all good there.

I'm pretty sure all NI plugins would need a complete rewrite for VST3, and that doesn't happen overnight. You're in for a very long wait.

 

Long wait..? I don't think so. I'm sure we will see updates to VST3 support very soon. ;-)



Best Regards
Freddie

 

If you don't think so that's your problem. I have a little more insight into this

VST3 still doesn't have enough traction to force developers to recode their plugins into this very different "standard" (it's not a true standard yet). Differences between VST3 and VST2.4 are not small, and you are deluding yourself into thinking that these updates will come "very soon". They won't. I assure you.

 

If you had bothered to read the time stamp on my post it was written before aax 64 bit support happened which was just this week. So my statement was valid at that point in time.

 

Half of those aren't real DAWs, and who knows when will Bitwig come out of its hiding, LOL.


And Reaper won't support VST3 for quite some time to come (unless adoption rate of VST3 becomes much larger, but currently there's very small number of VST3 plugins compared to VST2 plugins, less than 10% of all available plugins are VST3. That's bad.). I'm pretty sure it's the same with Samplitude.

 

Yes I know. I just point out now you have it, we don't after 5 YEARS OF wait...

 

vst 3 hasn't been around 5 years - get real Freddie. As you've seen pointed out here it's not a trivial thing to write vst 3 plugins and no real call for it when vst 2.x is working just fine for everyone and has for years.

 

Sorry. my mistake...7 years almost 8 years now 2014.
VST3 were introduced 2006.

Best Regards
Freddie

 

I suspect (and hope) we will see VST3 versions if and when NI move to the new SDK for VST since Steinberg are no longer going to develop the VST 2.4 kit. NI may keep using that one of course for a while but if they move to using the new kit it can turn out VST 2.4 and VST3 much more easily. Sooner or later I guess most companies will adopt the new kit just so that they are not using an outdated SDK.

At some point I would not be surprised if Steinberg decide to drop VST 2.4 support from Cubase too (just as ProTools have already dropped their old formats).

 

How ****ing hard can it be for you to understand this: VST3 HAS EXTREMELY LOW ADOPTION RATE! Why? Because Steinberg messed things up, they overengineered the specification making converting VST2 plugins anything but easy, especially if there is a lot of custon code happeningto work around shortcomings of VST2. NI plugins have a fair share of this code, so yes, it is not in NI's focus to support VST3 at this point in time. YOU ARE IN FOR A WAIT.

VST3 still doesn't have a lot of traction among the developers because it has a lot of problems still. Hell, even Cubase itself has some issues with VST3! Go to KvR developer subforum and read discussions about VST3 and why it isn't THAT good. It's far from being a holy grail.

I rest my case.

 

So AAX2 are the holy grail?


No, its just come down to functionality. VST3 has better functionality VS VST2.4. There are still more users that use VST3 today then there are users of AAX2 x64 or RTAS, so what's up with that?


Referring to VST3 are so bad in Cubase or what ever, I honestly have no idea what you talking about?
Works just fine over here.
Much better functionality and lower CPU in use VS exactly the same plugin in VST2.4 format.


You say you have better insight over this, and you state Native Instruments are years away from adding VST3 format on their plugins....

That seem to me like a BIG mistake and wrong business judgment if that is the case?

No VST3 x64 will soon be like the x32 plugins facing today= no one wants' to buy, use it or invest in it! Good Luck on that! ;-)


Best Regards
Freddie

 

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