Please let me see the stem visualizer in 2.9 without a controller

I am super excited about this format, but have no access to a NI controller

 

Mapped two stem decks today with my lpd8 with no problems but waveform would be nice on laptop display even if I had to buy an f1.

 

Yeah it's weird that they don't do that. I would map it to my old old old Trigger Finger or my much more awesome Ableton Push, but there's not really any point if I can't see the waveforms.

 

NI says its because of the gpu:
http://djtechtools.com/2015/08/05/why-stem-deck-waveforms-dont-show-in-traktor/

 

No matter what a person would need a controller with 4 faders and really 4 filter knobs at least. Even if you have the S4 or S2 or Z2, those controls are few and already in regular use.
It is a feature that either requires extra or dedicated hardware. For any software if features are added it's like that.
The only other answer would be for NI to give free hardware upgrades whenever a feature is added?

As for visuals yes it's kinda a bummer I was expecting the full waveform view of the Stem file, but really now that I have used the F1 with the demo Stems I think I will be fine just watching the one waveform (spectrum view) and basic meters.
Yes I also have the S8 But have yet to use the Stems with it.

At least the F1 was added with the update and other hardware was already released with the ability to make use of the added feature, just think if NI had released this update with only one special controller and locked the map.

 

Good article from DJTT
I am more than happy to pay for an upgrade to (3.0) with GPU usage - stem visualization in the software window to use with any controller when testing is complete.

 

After using the F1 and testing it out I pretty much agree with you.
But I was surprised when I didn't see all the waveforms in the software.
I think most are upset because it is something that seems left out, New or old to djing and music software does usually show information like that.

But yeah it's pretty easy to do without especially if you know the track or tracks being mixed.
As I see the only problem might be for a precise vocal shot or start or a specific melody. Even that area is usually easy to spot in a single waveform.

 

i wonder why people enjoy trolling

 

When the stem creator is available soon it will allow even more creative options...like creating a track with four bass drums, bass tracks etc. - it may sound odd but maybe changing the track windows to act more like a 4-channel DJ DAW with effect chains that make sense to each instrument channel would be fun. That's when seeing different bass drum visuals could be handy

 

Yeah the more complicated or the more precise cuts or drops and how often changes are made in a mix seeing the individual parts may be better, but then again mixing with mad chopping skills and cue points may be enough.
If you are that into it maybe the gear to buy is the D2 or S8 anyway.

 

The controllers that have the screens also have more direct control anyway

 

I can completeley sign this GPU issue. My Notebook has this built-in GPU and a NVIDIA GeForce. When i switch to the built-in GPU the Display of my D2 won't show anything correct and Latency free. Especially when playing STEM Files.

 

The GPU issue doesn't make sense at all. You can easily open 4+ instances of Traktor with 4 decks each and they will play perfectly. We got close-to-real-looking 3d games, real-time generated soundscapes and can landed on the moon with computers that have a fraction of the processing power that our PC's have today. But visualizing 4 tracks at once (which is something your PC already does when u got Track Decks ABCD running) is apparently not possible? I can't believe people are really that gullible.

 

i also find it hard to believe but right now there is no other explanation so...

 

What part of "You can easily open 4+ instances of Traktor with 4 decks each and they will play perfectly." didn't you understand?

 

I'm using a F1 controller. Playing stems is pretty easy to grasp what's going on. The main waveform and the individual VU meters is all I really need. Still I think it would be nice to see stems in the GUI since I'm on a S4 controller. Switching to a S8 is definitely out of my budget.

 

So where do you think I am wrong then? It's funny how you rant about me not knowing anything without providing ANY counter argument.

 

You must feel so smart and superior now - I can really see the euphoria dripping out of your fedora, gentlesir.

 

"you dont actually have any facts"

pretty big sentence for someone who hasn't countered any of my "outlandish" claims. You don't call your pc running 4 instances of Traktor smoothly a fact? My sympathies, it's 2015 already.

 

I am not saying it's not being rendered on the GPU. What I am saying is that it isn't impossible to render on the CPU

If they were actually to decrease the chance of crackling, why did they allow 4 decks? There are people with old computers and I am sure they don't want crackling either, probably there are even older computer, you know what just take iTunes this should run stable on your device but don't forget to disable to the visualizer >.>

If they actually cared more about users than about the money they would allow you to at least try rendering STEM wave forms on your pc. If it doesn't work you can untick it and everything's fine. I don't need 16 stems tracks, I won't be using more than 1-2 stem decks anyway. The reason why they are doing this is because they are after money (which is perfectly fine, everyone is).

Remember their explanation why they didn't allow mapping Remix Decks to other MIDI controllers? (totally not because they wanted to sell F1's) Remember how they immediately changed their decision as soon as DJTT hacked the Remix Decks so people could buy a MIDI Fighter instead? (totally not because they wanted people to rather use ANY NI product with Remix Decks instead of another company's controller) Remember how they then, shortly after, published the Maschine Remix Deck layout? (totally not because of the reasons above and because they squished out as much money out of the F1 as they could get).


Now, insert STEM and D2/S8 and combine.