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Polyphonic aftertouch

Dieses Thema im Forum "General Chat" wurde erstellt von zerocrossing, 14. Oktober 2021.

  1. zerocrossing

    zerocrossing NI Product Owner

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    Why is one of the premier software developers completely (Kompletly? o_O) ignoring a part of the standard MIDI spec? I somewhat understood it 10 years ago, but now we have the Hydrasynth and many MPE controllers that can be considered to spit out polyphonic aftertouch. Let’s go! Into the 21st century! It’s really inexcusable at this point. (Hint: if you made a 61 key Kontrol with polyphonic, I’d buy it in a heartbeat.) MPE would be nice as well. It kind of sucks that free synths like Vital and Surge support it and Massive X does not.
     
  2. Simchris

    Simchris NI Product Owner

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    So, you have a hydrasynth? Why not simply enjoy using the hydra sounds for poly at if your music style needs it? Also, mpe is not just poly at, but additional xyz elements like used on continuum or osmose. Mpe has only been part of midi spec since 2018 and fairly small user base in scheme of things. Midi 2.0 was just ratified in. 2020 so most software will need updates to work with new spec. It is a process, and bery excusable.

    what mpe device are you using now?
     
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  3. zerocrossing

    zerocrossing NI Product Owner

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    I don’t have a Hydrasynth, but I’m waiting to get the Deluxe when it ships. I’m using a General Music S2 as a controller. For MPE, I use a Rise 49.
     
  4. zerocrossing

    zerocrossing NI Product Owner

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    BTW, Poly Pressure’s been part of the MIDI spec for a very long time… maybe even in Dave Smith’s proto MIDI control language?

    https://www.midi.org/specifications-old/item/table-1-summary-of-midi-message
     
  5. Simchris

    Simchris NI Product Owner

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    Yes obviously. I bought the first two midi devices when originally released and wrote first magazine review in world for midi sequencer from Sequential. Well aware of midi spec.
     
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  6. Simchris

    Simchris NI Product Owner

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    Point was a lot of stuff being rewritten for MIDI 2.0, while in meantime priority is Mac ARM support and fixes for new OS. tiny number of folks like you and me have mpe or poly at stuff. I have hydrasynth, continuum, and other stuff with preorder of omose. So understand desire for everything to support mpe sooner than later.
     
  7. zerocrossing

    zerocrossing NI Product Owner

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    Oh please. We have freeware like Vital that has managed to implement it. All the Arturia software does it. It’s not exotic. If we’re waiting for NI to write software for the latest Apple chip change (I abandoned Apple due to NI’s glacial pace of updating their software to work on Intel based Macs) we’ll never see it. I’m sure the M2’is already on the drawing board and will require yet another rewrite.

    Go ahead and apologize for NI, but please don’t expect people to buy that b.s. It’s laziness and the fear that making a full featured product might cost a few euros that could be spent marketing Maschine expansion packs.
     
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  8. iRelevant

    iRelevant NI Product Owner

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    Man, cheer up.
     
  9. zerocrossing

    zerocrossing NI Product Owner

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    [​IMG]
     
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  10. DeepThumb

    DeepThumb NI Product Owner

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    BTW:
    When I read Thomanns description of the ASM Hydrasynth Deluxe: "... ASM Hydrasynth Deluxe; Digital wavemorphing synthesizer; 73 velocity sensitive keys with aftertouch; MPE compatible; 16 voices, monotimbral; ..."

    What does "16 voices, monotimbral" mean? Polyphonic e.g. can it sequence 4 note cords using one voice or how does that work?
     
  11. rAC

    rAC NI Product Owner

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    The Hydrasynth Delux is 16 voice monotimbral (ie 16 note chords) or 8 voice bitimbral (ie 8 note chords of two patches or 8 note chords on both sides of a split point).
    And for the OP yes I don’t like that NI has ignored parts of the original MIDI spec like polyAT for 25 years either.
     
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