QLSO : DFD setting and question

Hello

Thanks for the update, there are improvements but i still have a few problems.

I have a few questions :
- Can you give us DFD settings for a G5 2x2 2.5 GB with raid 0 of 410 GB
- I have set it to 192 / 384 248 reserved voices and I get "phits" and "clicks" .... DFD noise
I am playing "from the new world" from messure 1548
I have start to play only the strings

- Are the DFD settings global or you must set it by kind of instrument ?

- In the setting of a multi you can see the number of voiced played, the secon number is the limitation ; if I set the maximum to 64 notes I can see when it is playing very fast that the number of voice played reach 48.
Shoul I limit to 8 voices (a violin can only play 4 notes at a time, I multiply by 2 to get the release.

- is it better to have a multi by instrument, one for the violin one for the viola etc.. or is it better to full the multi with it's 8 instruments ?

As I dont know much may be you can explain

Thanks in advance

Cyril

 

I've already answered this question in the Northern Sounds forum. Please don't crosspost questions; it's double the work for those of us answering them.

 

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Hi David

Thanks for your help ;
I am using this forum because I can use Entourage with the ³spell checker²
;o)
It is nice to talk to you.
If you want I can send you my Logic test song ³From the new world² so you
can try it.

On 2/3/04 3:13 PM, "Native Instruments forum"
<forum72_thread9754@forum.native-instruments.net> David Das wrote:

I Have made a multi for each instruments of the orchestra
In all the multi I am using the ³C² key switched programs to define a basic
setup for my autoload song

For example :

For the violin I have a multi containing 3 instance of the 18V key switch
FST C0-A#0.nkm

I have found out that you get the DFD noises when you load 3 or 4 instance
of the multi of the SOSTRINGS.

Yes I have click on apply and re-call the DFD settings to check if there
where ok

What is strange is when I set to 256 voices I click on apply I get the
message ³the options of Kompakt....² then I re-call the DFD settings and it
is returning to 248.

Meanwhile I did more test, using one multi for the string another one for
the brass another one for the wind.
I have set the DFD to 48 / 48 248 voices, I can almost play ³ from the new
world² with 2.5 GB of memory
I will do some trial with 24/24 248 voices this afternoon, because this
morning I am going to the SIEL (French NAMM)

is said 10 !!???!!??

Can you ask to NI to have one DFD setting, it will be much more simple ;o)

This was a very good guess ;o) , also it is loading much faster.

Can you ask to NI to have 16 slots per instrument and to have 384 voices ?

A big improvement will be to have an analyse function to determine the
number of voices needed on a track.
Can you also ask to NI that when you select one slot, to display the notes
that are played on the keyboard only by that slot, this will also fix the
selection of the ³key switched note²

There are plenty problems with Logic can you ask to NI to work on those.
(problem fixed on the Kompakt player)

While I am at it :
* How do you avoid machine gun effect on a fast passage of Violin
* In VSL and GPO they have the Legato tool, I thought there was also one in
QLSO

Thanks in advance.

Best regards

Cyril Blanc

 

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Hi Cyril,

I will use Entourage to respond to you too because it"s much easier to
manage the quoting when you ask so many questions!

See below; I think I have an idea.

I"ve noticed this too and don"t know why it happens.

When you say 48/48 and 24/24 do you mean the preload and the voice buffer
size? That sounds extremely low to me. My system is completely different
(Mac G4 dual 1.25) but I use 192/384 for OK performance, any lower and I get
artifacts. So if you are really running at 48/48 then I think that is
probably the main problem: it"s working the computer far too hard. Can you
try higher settings? Try the "normal" preset and see how it behaves.

Well, they provide different DFD settings to accommodate different
computers" capabilities. I would rather have the control over them than have
a one-size-fits-all solution that may not work on mine.

If you own Kontakt then you could load the whole thing into Kontakt and have
16 slots per instance of Kontakt.

Otherwise you are definitely limited to 8 slots using the Kompakt Player,
unfortunately.

--
David Das / Nashville, TN
david@daviddas.com / www.daviddas.com

 

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Hi David,

Thank you very much for your answer.

To my list I add a very funny behaviour.

I load SOBRASS, SOSTRING and SOWIND in standalone with 3 multi of 8 slots
each ; it is taking 685 MB including MAC OS.

I load my test song with the same multi with 2.5 GB I have the message that
memory is getting low.

Then Logic crashes !

On 2/4/04 2:38 PM, "Native Instruments forum"
<forum72_thread9754@forum.native-instruments.net> wrote:

That was using the recommended settings 192/384

That was without DFD noise ;o))))))

You did not understand what I mean ; one DFD setting for SOBASS, SO STRING
SOWIND and SOPERCUSSION
So you will do only one time the DFD setting according to your configuration
;o)))

As there are problems when you get many instance of QLSO/Kompact they should
either fix this or allow to have more slots ! ;o)

Thanks again

Best regards

Cyril

 

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Very strange. I have heard of quite a few problems with Logic recently. I
don"t know if this is related.

Just to be clear: you load up the above three modules in standalone, but
then you load Logic which also has the same three modules (presumably in
AU)? Wouldn"t that mean that you are loading everything twice? That could
cause you to run out of memory.

Unless I misunderstand you.

I"m not sure I understand you. You use a 48/48 setting and get no DFD noise,
but use a 192/384 setting and you do?? Please clarify.

OHHHHHH!! Yes, I"ve thought of that too. I"m thinking about writing a little
utility that can custom-configure that. It is actually very simple to
change; you can go into your preferences, open up the pref file, and
manually type in the DFD values you want. That"s faster than having to load
the program and go through the DFD box.

Point taken.

David

--
David Das / Nashville, TN
david@daviddas.com / www.daviddas.com

 

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Hi David,

On 2/4/04 4:38 PM, "Native Instruments forum"
<forum72_thread9754@forum.native-instruments.net> wrote:

I rephrased :

Best regards

Cyril Blanc