r0n. Strange? Retyping presets.

Strange. I have studied page 44 of the puzzle book and it tells me that to rename a preset I should double click on the name and retype. I see the name twice, once at the top and again in the
long list. If I double click on either of these names nothing happens and I am unable to retype. Anyone else had that? Could it be that I am doing something wrong?
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You can only rename by double-clicking in the bottom panel of the "PRESET"-view.
It might be a host issue, which host are you using ?
It works fine here in energyXT and VstHost.

 

Oh thanks asseca. You pointed me in the right direction. I see my problem better now. For instance, I load any standard preset and then modify it and then 'save single' and give it my own choice of name. Ok, when I want that sound again I 'load single', I see the my own name for the sound, and, ok, my sound loads. But in the preset list my new sound still has the same name as the original standard preset. So now it has two names, my own name as listed amongst all the other sounds I have created with my own names but it also has the original standard preset name. And I have lost the sound of the original preset.

What I was expecting was that my own sound, with my own name, would show as an extra sound in the list of presets. So, asseca, will my own sounds always have two names?

Incidentally, I use B4 stand alone. I'm quite a good jazz pianist and I use B4 ll to enjoy playing.

r0n

 

Hi rOn,

BEFORE saving the single-preset with the "SAVE 1"-button, FIRST rename by double-clicking in the bottom panel of the "PRESET"-view.

The reason is that the name shown in the preset-list is saved inside with the preset.

 

Thanks asseca but please what do you mean by 'the bottom panel of the PRESET view?

Starting from the bottom of the page I see:

3 buttons under Midifile Player
3 buttons under Audition
6 buttons under List Operation
4 buttons under File Operation

Above that is the list of 120 standard presets.

Is any of these the 'bottom panel'?

Sorry to be so dumb.

r0n

 

"The list of 120 presets of which only 48 are visible at one time" on the "PRESET" view is what I meant, so "double-click" on one of the "48 visible presets" to rename that preset ...

 

Well thanks asseca. I have to tell you: it don't work. I wonder whether that is because I'm using B4 ll whereas you may be refering to B4. Alternatively, my copy is not registered, not because I didn't pay for it, I bought it from NI, but their site won't let me register. I've written to NI many days ago but no reply yet.

r0n

 

I am referring to B4 II, used on a windows XP computer, stand-alone or using B4 II inside VstHost ...
So, maybe it has something to do with the registration ...

 

asseca.......you can change any preset name any place that it is just do a left mouse click. You stated that could not be done, it can! You can change the name of the presets along with adding your own names because I do it a lot. I do not care for a lot of the preset names.
nukeys.

 

With B4 you can rename a preset with a single-click.

B4 II, using winXP, only allows renaming a preset by double-clicking on one of the 48 visible presets in the "PRESET"-view ... A single click on the preset-name at the top of the GUI allows you to select a preset from the preset-list of 120 fixed preset slots ...

 

Ok, I believe you. Always did. But I can't do it. So I've now been able to write to NI about it. I am able now because NI have re-established my reg. partics. The support page wouldn't let me in before. That's the second time that NI have had to re-establish me. Something wrong with their system.

I've been playing B4 a lot lately. I've also got the Kurzweil PC2R, it's a rack model from the posh keyboard. I bought it for gigs. This last week I've been comparing them. The PC2R not only has the famous piano it's also got a very good B3 with drawbars. I have thought that B4 was the best B3 copy but now I think the Kurz is better, now that I've got away from the original presets, which, surprisingly, are not as good as can be created. The B4 is sweeter though.

r0n

 

Sorry to read that you still cannot rename the presets ...

Re sound/tone of B4/B3:
The tone of a Hammond drawbar organ always have been very dependant on the speaker system / leslie system used ...

I have noticed in the Hammond factory (in the 70's) that even identical production units did not always sound the same ...

Some correction to the tone can be made by using a good equalizer (e.g. Electri-Q posihfopit edition http://www.aixcoustic.com/index.php/posihfopit_edition/30/0/ )

 

I just updated to B4 II (loved the old B4, but haven't used it for quite a while since I got so fed up with it asking for the CD-ROM from time to time).

I'm running Cubase SX3 and Cubase 4, and can't type in the name of my own presets in the preset list. The operation described in the manual isn't applicable to Cubase hosts apparently. A bit odd, you might think.

 

Hi Podel,

Would you do me a favor, and also try B4 II in Hermann Seib's free VstHost ... ( http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm )

 

Sorry, your VSTHost just keeps crashing here.

 

That is strange, VstHost is one of the better hosts ...
There is a list of hosts on http://www.asseca.com/hosts.html

You may try Chainer, if Chainer also crashes on your system, then there might be something wrong with your system ...

 

Well, now I got an instance of B4 II loaded in VSTHost but I can't get access to the GUI. Is that possible at all? If not, there's no way to check if renaming works as described in the manual.

I get no sound (probably because of my stupidity) and the program crashes whenever I scan the plugin folder.

 

You can load B4 II:
MainMenu >> File >> New Plugin
-- or --
by simply dragging B4 II.dll from Windows-Explorer onto VstHost

You can open the GUI:
MainMenu >> Plugin >> Window >> Edit
-- or --
by simply clicking on the round button in the little B4 II.dll window

Setting up sound:
MainMenu >> Devices >> Wave >> Select the "Output Port"

Setting up MIDI:
MainMenu >> Devices >> MIDI >> etc...

Re crashes when scanning plugin folder:
There will be a rogue plugin in the plugin folder which causes the crash.
Anyhow you not need to scan any plugin folders for VstHost to work ...

 

Aha! OK, so now I've found the (obvious) culprit for retyping the presets - you have to deselect 'Protect' for List Operation. Works in C4 as well. Thanks for getting me on the right track!

 

I suppose this is a Cubase setting ?