Reaktor 4.01 crashes on G4 with OS X

I just installed the version 4.01 upgrade from 3 on my G4 and whenever I launch the program in standalone mode (in OS X) it crashes after a few bounces in the dock and the following text shows up in the Console.

At this point, I have tried everything, including repairing permissions, reinstallation, etc. and nothing works. I can never get past the application launching stage.

I, unfortunately, don't know how to interpret the text below (I'm not sure if anyone does, but maybe it will be helpful to the folks at NI). If anyone has a similar experience or any suggestions, hearing about them would be helpful.


Date/Time: 2003-05-15 20:02:17 -0400
OS Version: 10.2.6 (Build 6L60)
Host: xx-108-210-51.xxx.xx.xxx

Command: Reaktor 4
PID: 401

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x003f7fec in _ZNSt16__red_black_treeILb1EE9incrementERPKNS0_9node_baseE
#1 0x003cdca4 in _ZN3HAL16CreateDeviceListERNSt3mapISsNSt6vectorImSaImEEENSt4lessISsEESaINSt4pairIKSsS4_EEEEE
#2 0x003c20ec in _ZN13NSAudioEngine15RegisterDevicesEv
#3 0x003c0b20 in _ZN13NSAudioEngineC1EPv
#4 0x003c0294 in NSAInit
#5 0x00384f4c in _ZN2NI2AB12InterfaceNSA4initEPv
#6 0x00382b94 in _ZN2NI2AB6ImpNSA4initEPv
#7 0x001d3b28 in _ZN10ReaktorApp14initStandaloneEv
#8 0x001d29e4 in _ZN10ReaktorApp4initEv
#9 0x003ce784 in _ZN2NI3UIA9AppModule17attachApplicationEPNS0_11ApplicationE
#10 0x001d2678 in _ZN10MainModule4initEv
#11 0x003ce6a8 in _ZN2NI3UIA9AppModule6createEv
#12 0x003ceafc in _ZN2NI3UIA6DETAIL16AppModuleStartup4initEv
#13 0x003ceaa0 in _ZN2NI3UIA6DETAIL16AppModuleStartup3runEv
#14 0x001c8fa4 in main
#15 0x00004674 in _start
#16 0x000044f4 in start

Thread 1:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x901489f0 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180f58 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv
#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x003f7fec srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x003cdca4 ctr: 0x9005e2d8 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbffff530 r2: 0x00000000 r3: 0xbffff584
r4: 0x02590a20 r5: 0x00000005 r6: 0x00000000 r7: 0xbffff490
r8: 0x007fa010 r9: 0xa0001048 r10: 0x007fa290 r11: 0xa00044b0
r12: 0x9005e2d8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0xbffff848 r27: 0x73740000
r28: 0xbffff84c r29: 0x00000001 r30: 0x00000001 r31: 0x73740000

 

yes that's very similar to the error I'm getting.. a strange thing happened to me though, this hasn't been working all day, then I opened it and it worked out of the blue.. but after I restarted my computer it stopped working again and started generating these crash logs.. BTW.. while I had it working I noticed very annoying popping sounds when I was playing back many different synths..

 

What an anticlimax :-(

I thought after several weeks delay from expected date it would imply a quality release. However the same - Every execution gives the later error.

Waited till 2:40am to download and install and that the result. gutted doesnt come close :-(

~Pev

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Date/Time: 2003-05-16 02:34:06 +0100
OS Version: 10.2.6 (Build 6L60)
Host: Kurtz.local.

Command: Reaktor 4
PID: 602

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x003f7fec in std::__red_black_tree<(bool)1>::increment(std::__red_black_tree<(bool)1>::node_base const*&)
#1 0x003cdca4 in HAL::CreateDeviceList(std::map<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::vector<unsigned long, std::allocator<unsigned long> >, std::less<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >, std::allocator<std:air<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const, std::less> > >&)
#2 0x003c20ec in NSAudioEngine::RegisterDevices()
#3 0x003c0b20 in NSAudioEngine::NSAudioEngine[in-charge](void*)
#4 0x003c0294 in NSAInit
#5 0x00384f4c in NI::AB::InterfaceNSA::init(void*)
#6 0x00382b94 in NI::AB::ImpNSA::init(void*)
#7 0x001d3b28 in ReaktorApp::initStandalone()
#8 0x001d29e4 in ReaktorApp::init()
#9 0x003ce784 in NI::UIA::AppModule::attachApplication(NI::UIA::Application*)
#10 0x001d2678 in MainModule::init()
#11 0x003ce6a8 in NI::UIA::AppModule::create()
#12 0x003ceafc in NI::UIA:ETAIL::AppModuleStartup::init()
#13 0x003ceaa0 in NI::UIA:ETAIL::AppModuleStartup::run()
#14 0x001c8fa4 in main
#15 0x00004674 in _start
#16 0x000044f4 in start

Thread 1:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x901489f0 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180f58 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x94d9c1c0 in HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*)
#5 0x94d911b0 in CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*)
#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x003f7fec srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x003cdca4 ctr: 0x9005e2d8 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbffff530 r2: 0x00000000 r3: 0xbffff584
r4: 0x01c563d0 r5: 0x00000005 r6: 0x00000000 r7: 0xbffff490
r8: 0x007ba010 r9: 0xa0001048 r10: 0x007ba290 r11: 0xa00044b0
r12: 0x9005e2d8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0xbffff848 r27: 0x73740000
r28: 0xbffff84c r29: 0x00000001 r30: 0x00000001 r31: 0x73740000

 

WOW!! That's what I'm getting, too!!

I can't run it as standalone...it bounces around the dock a few times then quits instantly.
I emailed my crash log to NI and got a tracking number from them

Somebody and Sonikmatter said to install it under administrator priviledges but that's what I thought I did. This is MY computer and I have admin priviledges.

I'm glad to know I'm not alone.
I'm mad this is happening.

Here's my log file and it's the exact same info each time.

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Date/Time: 2003-05-15 17:45:46 -0500
OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30)
Host: Richard-Brackins-Computer.local.

Command: Reaktor 4
PID: 499

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x003f7fec in _ZNSt16__red_black_treeILb1EE9incrementERPKNS0_9node_baseE
#1 0x003cdca4 in _ZN3HAL16CreateDeviceListERNSt3mapISsNSt6vectorImSaImEEENSt4lessISsEESaINSt4pairIKSsS4_EEEEE
#2 0x003c20ec in _ZN13NSAudioEngine15RegisterDevicesEv
#3 0x003c0b20 in _ZN13NSAudioEngineC1EPv
#4 0x003c0294 in NSAInit
#5 0x00384f4c in _ZN2NI2AB12InterfaceNSA4initEPv
#6 0x00382b94 in _ZN2NI2AB6ImpNSA4initEPv
#7 0x001d3b28 in _ZN10ReaktorApp14initStandaloneEv
#8 0x001d29e4 in _ZN10ReaktorApp4initEv
#9 0x003ce784 in _ZN2NI3UIA9AppModule17attachApplicationEPNS0_11ApplicationE
#10 0x001d2678 in _ZN10MainModule4initEv
#11 0x003ce6a8 in _ZN2NI3UIA9AppModule6createEv
#12 0x003ceafc in _ZN2NI3UIA6DETAIL16AppModuleStartup4initEv
#13 0x003ceaa0 in _ZN2NI3UIA6DETAIL16AppModuleStartup3runEv
#14 0x001c8fa4 in main
#15 0x00004674 in _start
#16 0x000044f4 in start

Thread 1:
#0 0x90073c48 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005f90 in mach_msg
#2 0x90148b10 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x94d9c1c0 in _ZN10HALRunLoop9OwnThreadEPv
#5 0x94d911b0 in _ZN9CAPThread5EntryEPS_
#6 0x90020d48 in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x003f7fec srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x003cdca4 ctr: 0x9005e2d8 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbffff510 r2: 0x00000000 r3: 0xbffff564
r4: 0x042b8f30 r5: 0x00000003 r6: 0x00000000 r7: 0xbffff470
r8: 0x007fa010 r9: 0xa0001048 r10: 0x038d8010 r11: 0xa00044b0
r12: 0x9005e2d8 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0xbffff828 r27: 0x73740000
r28: 0xbffff82c r29: 0x00000001 r30: 0x00000001 r31: 0x73740000

 

this is just a random guess, but do any of you have m-audio sound cards? i remember hearing something about there being a conflict with their drivers that would keep 4.0 from opening...

 

I am

I get a similar crash and am using an M-Audio card. I almost don't care, since it works in Logic!

 

yea, i do have an m-audio card as well..

 

m-audio

i have the delta 66 and am getting the same crash log....

knew i should have spent more money on a soundcard....

 

I think I can confirm this is a conflict with M-Audio sound cards.. I was able to open up reaktor standalone while I had logic opened up. Since Logic was already using my audio card Reaktor opened up fine.. So I changed my audio settings in the preferences to the built in audio card and it opens up so far every time.. I guess this is the work-around until either NI or M-Audio fixes this problem..

Hope this works for everyone else

 

Gee, that's funny, since I started a thread about this M-Audio card compatability issue and they said it should be cleared up with this update.

Oh, and I haven't checked any logs in my console, but I can't get the app to launch in standalone either. I'm going to try messing with my sound prefs and see if that does the trick, but...

What a letdown.

 

...

I use a Delta 44 - same problem =(

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Hey Logickal, I just read that thread, NI said they'd already fixed this problem and it would be ready by the 4.01 release??? hmm.. that's quite odd considering everyone is still having the problem..

 

Looks to me like what they meant to say was "4.0.2"

 

M-Audio Soundcards

Hi,

I don't think its as simple as a problem with M-Audio hardware. I have a Audiophile 24/96 card in my desktop machine, and I did get the problem described above- the application would not start up at all, and the crashlog looked very like the one pasted in above. HOWEVER, i got exactly the same behaviour when I tried to install on my iBook with only the builtin audio hardware. After several reinstalls, I managed to get the application to run on the iBook, installed the update, and everything is now fine with the laptop.

BUT I couldn't get Reaktor to work on the G4. Tried everything I could think of, until I had the bright idea of simply copying the Reaktor folder from the iBook onto the G4- then it worked......very weird.

 

Supplemental to my last post.....

I should have mentioned...now that I have managed to get Reaktor to work on the G4, the M-Audio card seems to work fine with it (though haven't tested the audio ins yet).

Could be that the presence of the M-Audio hardware is somehow causing a problem during the installation process, or when the application is first run. I didn't try this myself, but it might be worth uninstalling the M-Audio drivers, reinstalling Reaktor, running it using only the builtin hardware, then reinstalling the M-Audio stuff. I'd hazard a guess that once sucessfuly run for the 1st time you should subsequently be able to select the M-Audio card as the output and things will be hunky-dory.

It's worth a try.....

 

...

I tried the 4.0.1 AU Reaktor inside Logic 6.1 on my PB G4 with OSX.2.6.
Definitely not ready for prime time: crashes, graphic problems etc.
If I look at the email traffic on this list, I come to the conclusion that
the AU version is unusable, the Mac VST version is more stable and the PC
version is great, hardly anyone complaining. Am I right?
As NI has abandoned the dongle cp, I can"t just switch platforms like I used
to do with R3. Start on the PB, crash, continue on my G4 until it would give
in, then go to my PC and use that as a Reaktor host streaming the audio back
to my G4.
I will need to make a choice which 2 computers I will "bless" with the new
cp scheme. I would prefer 3 installs, of course...

Anyway, can people comment on the relative merits of OS9. OSX and Win XP as
a R4 platform?

Cheers,

Zip

 

no problems loading on osx as standalone, but have an anoying crash when playing a sample through the sound player module into flatblaster.ens. crashes every time, as soon as the sample has finnished playing ?

tried loading the au in logic last night, ran sweet the first time until I got ambitious and tried to open up 2 instances, then crashy. logic wouldn't even start up again.. required a reinstall of logic.

 

For what it's worth, I am using a Delta 1010 soundcard, so it may be an issue with the Delta card or drivers. Any suggestions on uninstalling the drivers?

 

Works fine for me

I am running OSX Reaktor 4 now and works great..seems snappy too..I also tried in Logic 6 and works fine..yes some graphics were a little weird but i think it is Logic not having enough memory?
Mac 1000Mhz G4
OSX 10.2.5
Motu 828 Audio

 

...

Hi

tried uninstalling midiman drivers(delta audioPhile24/96)
Restarted - selected built in sound manager
reinstalled reaktor 4.01
repaired permissions

STILL NOT OPENING!

a bit frustrating to say the least

G4 Dual 1.25
2gb ram
OSX 10.2.6

Kev (LoopTheory)


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