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REAKTOR 5 Crashing

Discussion in 'REAKTOR' started by Peter_JC, Nov 30, 2009.

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  1. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    Hey All,

    I just bought reaktor 5 and installed on a Mac Running Snow Leopard. Its Crashing when i try to launch however. I get the following error message:

    Dyld Error Message:
    Library not loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Versions/A/CoreMIDI
    Referenced from: /Applications/Reaktor 5/Reaktor 5.app/Contents/MacOS/Reaktor5
    Reason: image not found

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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    Okay so i returned the core midi folder and installed everything again [without reinstalling]. Now it launches and the icon appears in the dock but thats it. Nothing appears on the screen and there is no Reaktor tool bar :confused:
     
  2. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    please update to version 5.1.5 - use you Service Centre to do this.

    after installing the 5.1.5 update run Reaktor in Standalone.

    btw, are you using more than one Display Monitor?

    sowari
     
  3. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    Thanks for the reply

    Sorry it is version 5.1.5. I'm only using one monitor. I found out that a tool bar appears after the program has been in the dock for a substantial period. Then the same problem with opening anything from the library. I have to force quit and i get another error message then. Should i do a complete uninstall and reinstall?

    I downloaded the uninstaller and the leopard installer patch but the latter wont let me select the original installer app so i cant use it.
     
  4. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    hmmm.

    have you foung the Reaktor Icon, it should be in the Applications folder. try running Reaktor from that and not from the dock.

    sowari
     

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  5. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    Yep thats where i launch from. It then appears in the dock as with all other launched apps.
     
  6. arachnaut

    arachnaut NI Product Owner

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    Recently there was a Snow Leopard update to Safari that seemed to change the display behavior.

    Now when Reaktor loads it takes a lot longer and the initial display is distorted for a while. I noticed this just a few days ago and it is still ongoing.

    Some of those dyld errors can be fixed with some Terminal magic - search the web on those messages and you see some fixes.

    My advice to those with 10.5 is to wait a while before going to 10.6.
     
  7. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    Do you reckon i should revert my OS to back 10.5? I thought reaktor was pretty solid on 10.6 :confused:
     
  8. geiger167

    geiger167 Forum Member

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    Running fine here in 10.6, maybe download the NI uninstaller from the site, remove it properly, reinstall, update through the service centre, start in standalone mode and check everything is working before you revert back to anything :)

    Running here in 10.6, works fine in standalone, and in Logic Studio, and Ableton 8 (in both vst form and AU form)
     
  9. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    Will try thanks! How do you run in stand alone? Is that an option after you have launched the app?
     
  10. arachnaut

    arachnaut NI Product Owner

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    No, I wouldn't revert. Reaktor has been stable in 10.6, 10.6.1 and 10.6.2. No crashes, just that little peculiarity I mentioned.

    However, there are lots of little things in 10.6 that are bothersome, and no net increase of performance that I can detect, so it's not an essential thing for me.

    For me the Mac is just an accessory and an audio tool, it's not my main platform, so there could be lots of reason to update for a hard core Mac user.
     
  11. geiger167

    geiger167 Forum Member

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    Standalone is when you run the program by itself, not inside a DAW like ableton/cubase, so you would go to your applications folder, to the reaktor 5 folder, and double click the Reaktor five application in there after updating it with the service centre. Do NOT start it within a DAW first like cubase/ableton (this seems important lol)
     
  12. arachnaut

    arachnaut NI Product Owner

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    Standalone means to start it as the main application, launch it by itself.

    As opposed to VST mode where it runs inside a DAW.

    There are probably a lot of OS restrictions and permission constraints inside the VST environment, so running standalone lets the app run as an administrator when it needs to.
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    I am not a Mac guru by any means, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I just want to provide a possible clue.

    The message 'image not found' might mean a picture, or possible a 'core image'.

    The frameworks in the Mac are either 32 bit or 64 bit.

    Is it possible you have a 32 bit/64 bit confusion here?

    When I look at the Console startup messages I see lots of audio and midi driver loads with statements like - relaunching because a 32-bit driver was found, or that two drivers are there and only one will be used.

    Once I booted in 64 bit mode, but dropped back to 32-bit when I saw no advantages.
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    ...

    Just booting up and trying Reaktor again on the Mac...

    Now it boots very quickly without that weird little display glitch.

    Who knows what happened...?
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    Another idea to try.

    If it's not too much trouble, can you detach any audio and midi gear, reboot, and launch Reaktor with only the basic audio stuff.

    Than go to the audio and midi settings in Reaktor and set up some basic things.

    Then power down, attach your stuff and try again.
     
  13. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    Tried uninstalling using the NIUninstall and reinstalled and launched in stand alone but still same problem.

    Console has this error:

    "30/11/2009 20:55:31 com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[97] (com.apple.midiserver[2366]) posix_spawn("/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/MIDIServer", ...): No such file or directory
     
  14. arachnaut

    arachnaut NI Product Owner

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    This is a very different problem, but the same effect, I guess.

    It's not good to shot gun problems like this when something different happens every time.

    Hopefully someone with expertise in this will have an idea.

    One common thing is to delete preferences and repair permissions, but that's just another way of saying I don't have a clue to what's wrong.
     
  15. Peter_JC

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    Thanks for all the advice so far. Tried deleting prefs and repairing permissions but no change. I've never had a problem like this before. Quite strange. Looks like no Reaktor for another night!
     
  16. arachnaut

    arachnaut NI Product Owner

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    Since the error is showing some problem with system MIDI check the Audio Midi Setup Utlility in the utilities folder. Under "window" open the MIDI window and see if shows any error.
     
  17. Peter_JC

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    Okay tried that and i got a message saying that the MIDI server couldnt be opened. It told me to try uninstalling any recently installed MIDI drivers and see if it thats the problem.
     
  18. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    what keyboard/controller are you using to send MIDI to your computer?

    anyway, i really think you need to contact tech support on this one.

    sowari
     
  19. Peter_JC

    Peter_JC New Member

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    The only hardware i have hooked up usually is the 003 mixer. I don't use keyboards as of yet. At the moment i have nothing connected. I contacted tech support a few days ago and have yet to hear back...
     
  20. sowari

    sowari Moderator Moderator

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    many people are reporting slow response times at the moment, they must be very busy.

    so basically you are not connecting or using any MIDI device?

    look for your Audio MIDI Setup Utility in your Utilities folder. click on the MIDI Devices button, you should see an IAC Driver? double click on that and tick the Device is Online box, then press Apply. by doing this you at least have some MIDI Device active.

    now launch Reaktor 5. hopefully Reaktor will now be happier that you have some sort of MIDI In Out possibilities.

    not sure if this will work, but it is worth a try. let me know what happens ;)

    sowari
     
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