reaktor midi out problem (spiral)

while spiral works fine in standalone it does not put any midi out in other hosts, Kore and Ableton in particular. I have tried both with correct configurations and am not getting any midi out of spiral. The 'midi out' and 'Ext' red leds are on but still nothing..

any ideas?

thanks

 

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Works here in both. Try selecting plugin under activate MIDI out in Spiral's properties...

ew

 

maybe you need to show screenshots with your structures, because it is working here.

sowari

 

yeah I know it works for everyone else..

I tried selecting plugin as midi out as well.

here's a picture of the Kore config. can't see anything wrong myself. same in ableton I just set a synth to pick-up midi from the channel spiral is in.

 

are you on a Mac?

if so, try the VST (not AU) versions of the Reaktor Plugins.

also try the version in the Pic with Spiral 2 - that seems to work better.

btw, you version worked on my Mac, i just made sure i was using the vst Reaktor plugin for Spiral.

sowari

 

indeed the vst works fine sowari.

so what do we learn from this one? do vsts generally behave better than au's? I always thought the opposite since they are supposed to be mac native, right?

thanks

 

what we learn here is that NI are a bit vst centric, and that Kore behaves better with the vst versions of NI plugins indeed, if you load a Reaktor .ksd sound, i am 100% sure it will be a vst version.

in Ableton Live, i have also found that NI's vst versions behave better.

sowari

 

I think it's not so much that NI's VSTcentric (nice word, Phil ); it's more that it's easier to get cross-platform compatibility in hosts using VST as the baseline...

ew

 

Actually, what the problem is (as I have discussed elsewhere), the original Apple AU spec DID NOT include the passing of MIDI between and out of plug-ins. Has nothing to do (at least in this case) with a designers or manufacturer's 'preference', simply a lack of feature in one particular format.

You will note that in the case of Logic a third category 'MIDI FX' is included to address the lack by having a instrument that responds to MIDI and processes an audio side chain (thus a MIDI controllable effect). Of course the software creator has to provide this alternative version (as is the case with Reaktor).

 

thanks for pointing this out.

sowari